109 QQ Preflop Laydown - Thoughts?

FatalError · #1 05-31-2005, 03:05 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

Button (t925)
SB (t1065)
BB (t445)
Hero (t975)
UTG+1 (t1530)
UTG+2 (t1300)
MP1 (t1025)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t955)
CO (t805)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t90, 5 folds, CO raises to t300, 3 folds, CO calls t145.

Flop: (t580) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t580) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t580) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t580

Results in white below: 
BB has Kd As (one pair, tens).
CO has Jh Jd (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: CO wins t580.

DonButtons · #2 05-31-2005, 03:15 AM

Seems ok to me, I tend to fold these a lot, unless Im lucky enough to have notes on the guy for being a donk.

Plus I cant really read your HH that well, but Im guessing you folded preflop.

Michael C. · #3 05-31-2005, 03:36 AM

I've actually thought about adding QQ to KK/AA as a "don't fold" in the 109s unless the other player is someone I know is solid and wouldn't make a third raise without AA or KK. I used to call/fold in that situation depending on my feeling, but I've just seen so many players making that move with AK, JJ or far worse that I think calling with QQ is a plus EV play there. The 215s are tougher, but I think in the 109s I call. Do any other 109 players here disagree? Again, this is assuming I don't know much about the re-raiser.

FatalError · #4 05-31-2005, 04:33 AM

i don't normally lay down QQ but this was a situational laydown, the 2nd raiser was obviously strong as he would know he had no fold equity in a possibly 3 way pot, i think my only good result here is to be against AK and AK, i don't think 2 underpairs is possible because of the way this went down, as it as i put the reraiser on AK, his raise was rather large compared to mine, the reraised just had a top 10 hand, i know i could'nt see and AK or other face card on the flop and was maybe already beat, so i folded and looked for a better spot

raptor517 · #5 05-31-2005, 04:48 AM

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I've actually thought about adding QQ to KK/AA as a "don't fold" in the 109s

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not a very good idea imo. actually, its a very awful idea. i fold QQ a LOT to a reraise. you should learn how too. it plays absolutely AWFUL to a reraise. holla

raptor517 · #6 05-31-2005, 04:48 AM

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Plus I cant really read your HH that well, but Im guessing you folded preflop.

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thats ok, i hate converters. people should just post the HH as it shows up in party. holla