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Old 05-30-2005, 08:31 PM
EasilyFound EasilyFound is offline
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Default 44 on the button, ITM . . .

$11 SNG. I'd like to see if there is a consensus about the best way to play this hand in this spot. Player in seat one had been down to $500 a while ago, and doubled up. He had been aggressive as a short-stack at this level and on the bubble, pushing hands when he was the first in and getting out of the way when someone else was first in. The other player had been catching high pairs all night long and been cashing them in. He was playing only quality hands.

Given these reads, is there a reason to raise to t500 or do you just push, even though you can't expect to get better than a coinflip if someone calls and might very well be a 4-1 dog?

As always, thanks for taking a read.


***** Hand History for Game 2130747246 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12672228) - Mon May 30 20:05:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 39773 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: Oprich123 (1575)
Seat 4: pjp2004 (4415)
Seat 7: EasilyFound (2010)
Oprich123 posts small blind (100)
pjp2004 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 4c, 4h ]
EasilyFound ????
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:37 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

EDIT: Actually now I'm not sure. I'd push it, but I may be wrong. Lemme try to figure this out a little better.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:40 PM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

I raise to 3-4 BB, and push if checked to on the flop. The stacks are a little short to straight push, if they were 150 3 it would be clear.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:46 PM
lehighguy lehighguy is offline
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

Higher pairs are going to all-in you anyway, and that's all your afraid of. All min-raising does is let them get a pair for cheap or all-in you with two overs and now you don't know what to do.

You should push. Your +EV = 4.6% ROI if you push. That assuming thier call range is 22+,A2+,KQ,KJs. I can make a case why weak aces won't call here so your +EV may be higher.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

I never said to minraise... IMO a 4BB raise plays very similar to a push here. if youre reraised its a pretty clear call.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:53 PM
chisness chisness is offline
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

How do you get that number lehigh?
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:00 PM
EasilyFound EasilyFound is offline
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

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The stacks are a little short to straight push, if they were 150 3 it would be clear

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which stacks are you talking about? i'm not understanding what your saying here.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:01 PM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

yours, theirs... the three stacks.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

Puuuush.

Also, if you raise to 3BB, and are pushed back at, it's a call. You'll be getting slightly better than 2-1 from SB, and even better odds from the BB.

But I hate playing a pair of 4's postflop when the pot is about the size of my stack. It's too touch and go.

So push.

EDIT--Got the blinds mixed up. It doesn't change the recommendation, however.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 44 on the button, ITM . . .

I instantly push this.
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