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Is it profitable to lay down KK preflop in this example?
His line was such a standard AA preflop I knew it beforehand but still called
PokerStars Game #1792865018: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/05/29 - 19:40:42 (ET) Table 'Caprera II' Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: CSketch ($34.10 in chips) Seat 2: dsaxton ($109.05 in chips) Seat 3: Spartan1 ($41.30 in chips) Seat 4: Snakey007 ($58.65 in chips) Seat 5: Captain 231 ($157.10 in chips) Seat 6: dentoner ($120.90 in chips) Seat 7: mattpco ($27.25 in chips) Seat 8: jdzito75 ($124.35 in chips) Seat 9: Thomas299 ($33 in chips) jdzito75: posts small blind $0.50 Thomas299: posts big blind $1 Snakey007: posts big blind $1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to dentoner [Kd Ks] CSketch: folds dsaxton: folds Spartan1: raises $2 to $3 Snakey007: folds Captain 231: folds dentoner: raises $7 to $10 mattpco: folds jdzito75: folds Thomas299: folds Spartan1: raises $31.30 to $41.30 and is all-in dentoner said, "i smell AA" Captain 231 said, "lol" dentoner said, "standard AA play" dentoner said, "but im gonna call" dentoner: calls $31.30 *** FLOP *** [Ts Qc 9h] dentoner said, "kk" *** TURN *** [Ts Qc 9h] [Td] *** RIVER *** [Ts Qc 9h Td] [7s] *** SHOW DOWN *** Spartan1: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Tens) dentoner: mucks hand dentoner said, "yup" Spartan1 collected $82.10 from pot dentoner said, "nh" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $85.10 | Rake $3 Board [Ts Qc 9h Td 7s] Seat 1: CSketch folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: dsaxton folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Spartan1 showed [Ad As] and won ($82.10) with two pair, Aces and Tens Seat 4: Snakey007 folded before Flop Seat 5: Captain 231 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: dentoner mucked [Kd Ks] Seat 7: mattpco (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: jdzito75 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: Thomas299 (big blind) folded before Flop |
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Re: Is it profitable to lay down KK preflop in this example?
I mean when you are pretty sure they have AA as the case here b/c i see this play alllll the time played out like this and i just piss away money. Was hoping for QQ or a pathetic JJ
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Re: Is it profitable to lay down KK preflop in this example?
It depends on how sure "pretty sure" is. You could do some math to figure out what percentage of the time the villain needs to have aces for folding here to be a good option. In general, by the time the 3rd raise goes in, there's so much in the pot that you need to be quite certain you are against aces for folding to be your best option.
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Re: Is it profitable to lay down KK preflop in this example?
With stacks this shallow, he'd have to show me his A A before I fold.
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Re: Is it profitable to lay down KK preflop in this example?
He'd have to show me his aces too.
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Re: Is it profitable to lay down KK preflop in this example?
the probability of KK vs AA at a full ring is approx 1/22, i use 1/20 as a walkaround number. i see many fish go allin with QQ, JJ, and lower, i'm gonna call with my KK every time unless i have a read on the villian.
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