Extracting value from monsters

[durron597]

I've decided that I'm very bad at this. No reads, this is the 3rd hand of level 1. When do you start becoming aggressive?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1500)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1470)
SB (t3070)
BB (t1470)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t40, Hero calls t40.

Flop: (t260) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t120</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls t60.

Turn: (t500) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100.

River: (t700) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, CO calls t400.

Final Pot: t1500

[valenzuela]

I bet 1/3rd of the pot every time I want money for my good hand, I treat monsters the same way. If they dont have something u wont be able to get them to call u, just hope they have soemthing and keep betting

[EasilyFound]

Good advice. Remember, a monster has no value if your opponent doesn't have a hand. Plus, you gave your opponent good odds to draw on the turn if he had a set and was drawing to a full house. I've done that before. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[igotBlackJak]

you would be supprised how many calls you will get when you ALLIN that river... I didn't notice what buyin you were at.. but 20 and below im ALLIN on that riv everytime just from knowing how these other fools play..

gl

[durron597]

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you would be supprised how many calls you will get when you ALLIN that river... I didn't notice what buyin you were at.. but 20 and below im ALLIN on that riv everytime just from knowing how these other fools play..

gl

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Do you play the other streets the same?

[octaveshift]

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Do you play the other streets the same?

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I run like hell from your flop bet, but most players probably put you on a flush draw.

IE- Against better players, I would bet more on the flop, because it's precisely the oppostite of what people expect you to be doing if you have a monster.

I'd go so far as to say an all-in on the flop probably gets you more calls than you would imagine at lower levels.

[durron597]

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Do you play the other streets the same?

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I run like hell from your flop bet, but most players probably put you on a flush draw.

IE- Against better players, I would bet more on the flop, because it's precisely the oppostite of what people expect you to be doing if you have a monster.

I'd go so far as to say an all-in on the flop probably gets you more calls than you would imagine at lower levels.

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I think you are right. I have to bet more on the flop when I have a monster, to build the pot for later streets. If no one has anything, no one has anything and I have to say "oh well".

[octaveshift]

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I think you are right.

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Oh and let's keep the concept of fast-playing monsters "our little secret" OK?

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[Unarmed]

Bet more on the flop or C/R all-in. (I love that one)

[durron597]

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I think you are right.

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Oh and let's keep the concept of fast-playing monsters "our little secret" OK?

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Well, I think betting the flop hard and checking the turn is pretty nice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]