$55s - Trapping With AA Preflop

Unarmed · #1 05-29-2005, 11:38 AM

First one is obvious, second one not so much. Is hoping UTG has a monster on hand 2 reason enough to smooth call in the hopes he pushes, sandwiching the other guys?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

UTG (t292)
UTG+1 (t865)
MP1 (t1600)
MP2 (t500)
CO (t1068)
Button (t2270)
SB (t2245)
Hero (t1160)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t150, 1 fold, Button calls t150, 1 fold, Hero raises to t250, MP2 pushes, Button calls t350, Hero pushes, Button calls t660.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

SB (t192)
BB (t865)
UTG (t490)
MP1 (t1068)
MP2 (t2345)
CO (t2220)
Hero (t2820)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 1 fold, MP2 calls t50, CO raises to t175, Hero calls t175, 1 fold, BB calls t125, UTG calls t125, MP2 calls t125.

KingDan · #2 05-29-2005, 11:51 AM

Converter seems a little odd in the first one.. I think I am missing one.

I hate the play in the second. I very rarely see limpreraising in the 30s, and its even less likely since you have AA. You don't have AA against 4 players ( at least one who called 50 will call 125 more).

microbet · #3 05-29-2005, 12:01 PM

I don't mind having a few people with me with AA, but as the 4th in the pot with people to act, and the raise before me not being that big, I'd raise. With this much dead money in the pot you should be able to get one or more players allin preflop.

Still, I don't think it was really bad and it was a rare occurance that you neither got any folds, nor reraises, and even got one more caller.

gumpzilla · #4 05-29-2005, 12:05 PM

What other hands do you min-reraise with PF? I don't have actual numbers for this, but if I were to guess I'd say that 75% of the time that I see this move PF the person ends up showing down AA, so I don't like that move much. I think pushing if you want to reraise might be the way to go, I suspect you'll get a caller fairly often. Calling would probably be my favorite choice if you weren't playing this from the BB, since I'd love to let the bettor and caller lead out on the flop. Calling and c/r'ing any flop might be viable as well, but you really need to know that one of the guys behind you will bet.

In the second one, I think a nice little isolation raise against CO is the way to go. What's particularly nice about this is that since you're right behind him you can afford to make this relatively small, since everybody but the CO is going to have to call a double bet, basically. I pop it to 375 right here and figure CO will stay around. I anticipate that this will lead him to check most flops, where I then check behind unless it's too draw heavy for my liking. This should get a healthy turn bet out of him, and then you can proceed from there.