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Old 05-28-2005, 12:45 PM
11t 11t is offline
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Default 50 max KK hand

Guy sat down recently, no reads but he doesn't seem like a chump.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 10 handed) converter

BB ($45.38)
UTG ($94.55)
UTG+1 ($53.35)
UTG+2 ($40.53)
MP1 ($82.79)
MP2 ($61.82)
MP3 ($57.95)
CO ($51.45)
Hero ($76.2)
SB ($43.3)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $7.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $7.50, MP2 folds, Hero calls $6.

My question is really about that call, by reraising the initial raiser SB has revealed the strength of his hand (high PP) but for some reason I froze and got afraid he had AA. Should I just push this here and get heads up vs SB and if he has AA so be it?
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

You should have reraised the first bet. If you reraise the first bet, and SB comes over the top for a 2nd reraise, you might want to let it go.

By not reraising the first time, you don't know where you are in the hand and have much less information to work on.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

I realize, I'm just a tricky player is all and I like to cold call raises with high pairs to conceal the strength of my hand.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

No you wouldnt "let it go" if you get reraised. At 50NL I dont think you can fold KK with shallow stacks. Especially against someone you dont have a read on. Reraise the first bet and push if reraised behind. If they all three go all in with you think of the overlay your KK is getting.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

You dont need to be tricky at 50NL. Most people at this level suck just a little less than the folks at 25NL and they would probably call you raise with KK if your cards wer face up. Dont be tricky with KK preflop ever against 2 opponents at small stakes. Raise for value.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

The problem is the original pre-flop raiser's raise is too small for you to be able to cold-call. A $2 raise will let too many people into the hand. I could understand cold-calling to try and trap if the raise was $2.75 or $3, but you need to make it more expensive to see a flop for the other people.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:15 PM
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You dont need to be tricky at 50NL. Most people at this level suck just a little less than the folks at 25NL and they would probably call you raise with KK if your cards wer face up. Dont be tricky with KK preflop ever against 2 opponents at small stakes. Raise for value.

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Old 05-28-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

I would pop it up to a good 25 and see what happens.
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: 50 max KK hand

I don't know if I would push, but I definitley think that a raise is in order. Although I'm thinking a raise to about 20-25, which doesn't leave the SB with much behind, so his money is going in if he hits, or a safe flop comes for his hand and unless you have a dead on read (which you don't), you'll have to put your money in regardless of the flop.

I say no all-in because if he doesn't have aces then he should fold, and since your money will go in anyways, it would be nice to get more from him.
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