Two Hands: Call the All-In? Push?

[EasilyFound]

OK. Two hands from $11 SNG PartyPoker. Would like to know how people would play each of these hands: do you call in the first one and do you push/raise/fold in the second?

Thanks.

***** Hand History for Game 2114522544 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:49:18 EDT 2005
Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Here_to_play (960)
Seat 3: coloisra (2105)
Seat 5: SoylentCo (1050)
Seat 6: Mhaser (740)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (1330)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1815)
Here_to_play posts small blind (100)
coloisra posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ 7c, 7h ]
SoylentCo raises (1050) to 1050
SoylentCo is all-In.
Mhaser folds.
EasilyFound ?????

***** Hand History for Game 2114524560 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12577335) - Fri May 27 16:49:46 EDT 2005
Table 35339 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Here_to_play (860)
Seat 3: coloisra (1905)
Seat 5: SoylentCo (1350)
Seat 6: Mhaser (740)
Seat 8: EasilyFound (1330)
Seat 10: sedge94 (1815)
coloisra posts small blind (150)
SoylentCo posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EasilyFound [ Ah, 6h ]
Mhaser folds.
EasilyFound ????

[BDarch]

I'd call in the 1st one but idk if thats the best move and then I would push the 2nd example

[xLukex]

I played a couple against SoylentCo today.

That's about all I can contribute to this thread.

Push the first. Can't remember the 2nd.

[Nick B.]

I would probably fold them both. In the first one, you have to respect the UTG raise, and you don't have a desperate stack. The second one, you have too much to risk on a weak suited ace with so many people to act after you.

[EasilyFound]

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The second one, you have too much to risk on a weak suited ace with so many people to act after you.

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Really . . . I have 4.43xbb here. The blinds are one-third of my stack. I didn't feel like I could wait that much more, but maybe I could.

[lastchance]

He's wrong. 4x BB with FE? Your position does suck, but your stack sucks even more. The 2nd is an easy push.

The 1st is a tough one. 6x BB, true, but UTG all-in, which is not good. UTG's got 5x BB, he's pushing something like 22+, A2+, K9+, QJ. 77's 55%... And I think my range was a bit wide... Against 44+, A7+, KJ+, 77's 49%...

ICM plays a small part here, but it's still 6-handed. Hero's a coinflip? Is the lay worth it? Plus, someone could pick up a hand behind you...

I think I fold, but it's not easy.

[TruFloridaGator]

I would call & push, but the 1st is tough. Too much FE on the 2nd to pass up...

[Nick B.]

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The second one, you have too much to risk on a weak suited ace with so many people to act after you.

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Really . . . I have 4.43xbb here. The blinds are one-third of my stack. I didn't feel like I could wait that much more, but maybe I could.

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You have 4+BB but you are above an average stack. Other people are a lot more desperate than you. This point in the tournament you can get blinded down, and win 1 hand and double or triple up to an average or above average stack.

[lastchance]

Or you can steal 1.5 BB 50+% of the time, and get to a very healthy stack that way.

I think A6s is way too good to fold here. Anyone want to crunch some numbers? You can't get into the money without a few steals or a double-up. This, especially when you're going to be down to 3x BB after the blinds hit in the next 4 hands, is an excellent spot to get your chips in.

[Nick B.]

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Or you can steal 1.5 BB 50+% of the time, and get to a very healthy stack that way.

I think A6s is way too good to fold here. Anyone want to crunch some numbers? You can't get into the money without a few steals or a double-up. This, especially when you're going to be down to 3x BB after the blinds hit in the next 4 hands, is an excellent spot to get your chips in.

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eh whatever. You can play as you wish.