1st hand, KK...

Dominic · #1 05-27-2005, 12:26 PM

six-handed $50 SNG on UB...

First hand, I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

flop is J96 rainbow

BB leads out with a pot-sized bet. One fold, I push.
Other limper folds, BB calls with J9os. I'm out.

Anyone else fold this flop???

What if he had checked the flop, I bet, and came over the top? Anyone fold that?

citanul · #2 05-27-2005, 12:29 PM

i'm pretty sure i don't fold this in either case.

citanul

Phoenix1010 · #3 05-27-2005, 12:38 PM

What are the starting stacks for the six handed UB games? And what are the bet sizes here? I think a foldable situation is conceivable (though unlikely) given the right parameters, but only in the check/raise scenario. I'm coming over the top almost every time when he leads out.

-Phoenix

Karak567 · #4 05-27-2005, 12:38 PM

Unless an A drops or a really scary board (4 flush or something that I don't have) comes out, I am going to the felt with this one.

lehighguy · #5 05-27-2005, 01:05 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t910)
MP2 (t1165)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t970)
Hero (t985)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t970)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls t15, 4 folds, Hero raises to t57.5, 1 fold, MP1 calls t45.

Flop: (t132.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t125, MP1 raises to t250, Hero calls t125.

Turn: (t632.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Converter screwed up:
Hero Checks, MP1 bets 325, Hero goes all in (650 or so), MP1 calls

River: (t1910) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t632.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and twos).
MP1 has Jd Kc (two pair, jacks and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins t632.50.

NYCNative · #6 05-27-2005, 01:11 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise more. You never want three callers. Maybe you didn't know that at the time, but you need to figure out a good number that eliminates all but one or at the most two callers. But J9o is a moron. Remember his or her name and follow him or her around. Make lots of money.

Phoenix1010 · #7 05-27-2005, 01:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]
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I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise more. You never want three callers. Maybe you didn't know that at the time, but you need to figure out a good number that eliminates all but one or at the most two callers. But J9o is a moron. Remember his or her name and follow him or her around. Make lots of money.

[/ QUOTE ]

No. If it was a minraise, calling does not make him a moron. Leading into the bettor was also a smart line.

NYCNative · #8 05-27-2005, 01:28 PM

[ QUOTE ]
No. If it was a minraise, calling does not make him a moron. Leading into the bettor was also a smart line.

[/ QUOTE ]I was assuming that it wasn't a minraise since nothing was said on the specific amount of the raise. I merely said that whatever he raised, it wasn't enough if he got three callers. If he minraised, then yes, he got what he deserved.

Phoenix1010 · #9 05-27-2005, 01:34 PM

I should have specified. I agree completely with the first part of your post, I was just pointing out that we do not have enough information in the hand to make a judgement of BB's play.

Dominic · #10 05-27-2005, 02:41 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise more. You never want three callers. Maybe you didn't know that at the time, but you need to figure out a good number that eliminates all but one or at the most two callers. But J9o is a moron. Remember his or her name and follow him or her around. Make lots of money.

[/ QUOTE ]

I always raise at least the size of the pot...any more and i'm scaring away hands I want to call....it sure did surprise me to get three callers, though.