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Old 05-26-2005, 02:55 PM
ghostface ghostface is offline
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Default Bottom two, river play problem

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Button ($34.19)
Hero ($71.39)
BB (Villain) ($160.74)
UTG ($63.87)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB (Villain) raises to $0.5</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $3.35</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, Villain calls $6.65.

Turn: ($23.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Villain calls $15.

River: ($53.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ...
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:07 PM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: Bottom two, river play problem

Not experienced at 6 max but thought I'd take a stab...

Villain's line has me confused.

Four handed, best guess he's got KQ, KJ, is confused by your aggression and is calling down hoping he's got the best hand. River is tough, I'd put out a weak blocking bet (say $10) and expect to call a small raise. (edit: The idea of the weak blocking bet here is to confuse him, get value if you're ahead and see a cheap showdown if you're not.)
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:14 PM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default Re: Bottom two, river play problem

did you lose to A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

i'd check/call the river. i wouldn't be disappointed to see a free showdown, but i'm okay with calling whatever he bets too.

i don't want to make a blocking bet because i don't want to fold to a raise...although if Villain has something good like KK or AK he'll probably be just as worried about the flush card as you are.

hmm, i changed my mind...i think a blocker/value of $35 or so is the best play.
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:25 PM
The_Bends The_Bends is offline
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Default Re: Bottom two, river play problem

A the SS minraise from the blinds again. Whatever he had on the flop is not that strong or he'd have probably raised the turn. It could be a flush draw but that doesn't really square with the preflop min raise. Basically I don't think you have any clear way to judge what hand he has. I wouldn't be suprised to see K9 here but neither would KQ shock me. I'd check/call anything reasonable (&lt;$40)
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:31 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Bottom two, river play problem

Too short stacked to get away, given your line. Any bet on the river commits you. But checking is leaving a LOT of value on the table. So I would bet $25 and call a push, of course. I wouldn't c/r the flop, though. I'd rather lead the flop. Or c/c flop, lead turn. Or c/c flop, c/r turn. I think c/r flop is the worst line available, honestly.
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:36 PM
tripdad tripdad is offline
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Default Re: Bottom two, river play problem

i think this is a great time to try a check/raise for all your chips on the turn.

it looks to me like villain has a big pair...either AK, or AA. if you check to him, he is very likely to bet the turn with these hands, putting you on a weaker K, or a flush draw.

given the way you played this hand, the river is very difficult. i'll let someone better than me give an answer to that one. my thought is that the pot may be too big if you throw out a $20 or so bet to fold to an all-in. if that happens, though, it is highly likely you are beaten, but whether you are beaten often enough to fold in that senario is what gives me problems.

certainly, if you whiff on your check/raise, you could bet out $15 and safely fold to a push.

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