betting the river

kickingking · #1 05-26-2005, 05:20 AM

Hero is in the cutoff in a 5/10 game at paradise
UTG limps ,a stong player in early limps,hero limps with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],SB call BBraps
Flop is the lovely
6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG checks stong player bets hero raises evryone folds.
turn is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
i bet stong player calls
river is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
hero gets cold feet and checks stong player gratefully checks and shows me 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
should i give up poker for ballet?

thesharpie · #2 05-26-2005, 05:24 AM

Raise preflop. I smoothcall the flop the way you played it but it could be wrong. Bet this river, a strong player doesn't play a 3 or 7 in early position, the only hand I can see being played like this that beats you is 77.

SmileyEH · #3 05-26-2005, 05:24 AM

Not raising preflop here is akin to burning money.

-SmileyEH

Elbie · #4 05-26-2005, 05:31 AM

I can't understand why you didn't raise that river. The preflop raiser is very unlikely to have 77 (well he actually had 88)

I don't know about the flop raise. You may want to fold SBs and BBs possible gutshots but on the other hand you have a monster with good redraws even against a made straight. I would probably have smooth called the flop and raised the turn if betted into again.

xCEO · #5 05-26-2005, 05:40 AM

Raise preflop!! I would bet the river.

Entity · #6 05-26-2005, 05:44 AM

Why would strong player have a 7?

trentcroad · #7 05-26-2005, 05:59 AM

Raise pf and dont be too worried about the river!

aK13 · #8 05-26-2005, 06:05 AM

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hero limps with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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Explain.

kickingking · #9 05-26-2005, 11:37 AM

i agree that was an attractive option but with the two suited flop and a couple of rags i was hoping one of the blinds might reraise with two pair or an open ender

kickingking · #10 05-26-2005, 11:42 AM

i personally don't consider JJ an automatic raise against two early limpers.as it happens i got no extra callers but when you flop a set the more the merrier.