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Old 05-25-2005, 08:27 PM
ClaytonN ClaytonN is offline
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Default What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t1375)
SB (t2245)
BB (t760)
UTG (t2020)
UTG+1 (t1935)
MP1 (t1425)
Hero (t1625)
MP3 (t1175)
CO (t940)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (t275) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero???
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

um, let's go with a bet.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

Obviously, but how much?
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

probably in the range of 120-160. i don't want anyone drawing to the flush with the proper odds and i also don't want to give an ace a cheap shot at the 4.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

I bet 180. Decent?
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

i think it's a little on the large side. you don't mind some action here, you just want to bet enough so that if someone one a club draw calls you, they're doing so with the wrong odds.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

[ QUOTE ]
probably in the range of 120-160.

[/ QUOTE ]I think that's not enough. I make a pot-sized bet here, actually. Maybe a little less but 1/3 of the pot just begs to get called or raised. Then what?
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: What\'s my line with QQ early on this ragged flop?

ah, i didn't take into account the blinds and the 30 dead chips from UTG+1. with 275 in the pot instead of 200, i think 180 is about right and I'd probably even bet a bit more, maybe around 200.

if you're ever in a situation exactly like this, but with a 200 chip pot, then refer to my last couple of posts in this thread.
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