AKo > 2 Callers > Miss > Continuation Bet?

-Skeme- · #1 05-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Do you bet again here?

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed)

MP2 ($161.70)
MP3 ($99)
CO ($98.50)
Hero ($100)
SB ($138.20)
BB ($42)
UTG ($100.30)
UTG+1 ($32.40)
MP1 ($33.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB calls $4, MP3 calls $4.

Flop: ($15.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero ??
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villafan · #2 05-25-2005, 08:03 PM

I would bet it, as I think it is a profitable bet when the board is paired (less chance that your opponents hit), you have the top two overcards, you have a backdoor flush draw and you have position. If you get called you obviously have a problem, but its not too hard to get away from the hand if you dont get a free card on turn or run into resistance. You will pick that pot up with a 12 dollar bet often enough to make the play (i would think).

BTW, we are talking two callers, right?

-Skeme- · #3 05-25-2005, 08:07 PM

Yeah, 2 callers. Edited the original title. So bet $12, if I get raised, easy fold. If I get called, check behind if checked to on turn?

Also would like to point out that they don't need a 9 to call. I think Sevens, Eights, Tens, Jacks and up call. Obviously Jacks and above are unlikely as they probably would've raised, but my point still stands. I don't think they simple check-fold unless they have the 9.

kongo_totte · #4 05-25-2005, 08:13 PM

My standard line is betting 3/4 here. Whether I have A K or A A or 9 9.

-Skeme- · #5 05-25-2005, 08:22 PM

I checked. I just thought I'd get looked up by one of the opponents. In my experience, limp-calling is usually random smallish to medium pairs from the passive players at this level. I felt I could take one off for free. I could still be good with nut no pair, improve to best hand with Ace or King on the turn, or get checked to and bet on turn. Lot of options. I can also survey the action as I have button, and somebody with something will most likely bet there.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP2 ($161.70)
MP3 ($99)
CO ($98.50)
Hero ($100)
SB ($138.20)
BB ($42)
UTG ($100.30)
UTG+1 ($32.40)
MP1 ($33.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB calls $4, MP3 calls $4.

Flop: ($15.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($15.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($15.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $7, MP3 raises to $14, Hero folds, BB raises to $37, MP3 calls $23.

Final Pot: $89.50

Results in white below: 
BB has Qd 9d (three of a kind, nines).
MP3 has 9h Jh (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: BB wins $89.50. 
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I also checked the blank turn. I guess I probably could've/should've bet there as neither of them had shown any strength. Funny results, lol. I think it was TJ Cloutier who said there's no reason to put another penny into the pot with unimproved AK. While I don't agree with this 100%, it is a good concept to follow. I don't think he meant continuation bets, though. Probably just advising not to go broke with naked AK.

kongo_totte · #6 05-25-2005, 08:41 PM

A check on the flop is fine once in a while to mix it up. After all, you´ll more often have AK-AJ when you raise pre-flop than AA-JJ (givcen that you raise all of those hands from LP). However, if I check the flop, I never bet the turn unimproved. By checking the flop you tell them that you have missed over cards and a turn bet looks like precisely what it is, a steal since no other showed interest in the pot, and will more often than not get called down by any PP.

-Skeme- · #7 05-25-2005, 09:07 PM

Good point.