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Old 05-23-2005, 11:17 AM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
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Default Too early to get into a big hand...

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

BB (t1500)
UTG (t1780)
UTG+1 (t1500)
UTG+2 (t1500)
MP1 (t1315)
Hero (t1480)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1415)
Button (t1300)
SB (t1740)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t20, UTG calls t20.

Flop: (t210) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t20</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls t20, Hero calls t20.

Turn: (t270) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t270</font>, CO calls t270, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t1350</font>, Hero...
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

One of the two has J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he's freerolling the river against your nut straight. I think you should fold this and conserve your chips for the bubble.

I would fold AA preflop to this turn action as well, FWIW.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

Definitely too early. I hate doubling up in the first level.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

WTF?
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:35 AM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

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Definitely too early. I hate doubling up in the first level.

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That's a good point. This is especially true in a live game. Stacking all those chips can be a real hassle.

I would value-fold the nuts here.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

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One of the two has J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he's freerolling the river against your nut straight. I think you should fold this and conserve your chips for the bubble.

I would fold AA preflop to this turn action as well, FWIW.

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dont understand the last line...but, I cant think of a situation outside someone pointing a gun to my head where I am laying this down to the turn raise all-in.

the PF and flop calls are bad...but you hit THE PERFECT card to reward your bad play...if you make bad plays, dont punish yourself by then laying down the NUT hand. That was the one of three cards you called for!!!

call this in a heartbeat...JTh?!?! lol
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

I think this is a pretty easy flop call.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

Dammit you two, causing me to laugh out loud at work is going to let the boss man know that I don't do anything around here. Please be more thoughtful and save the witty comments for after 5pm central.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

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I think this is a pretty easy flop call.

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You're right...didnt realize he was closing the action. If he wasnt, I would rarely even call 20 bc this flop is often getting raised behind me.

In fact...i'd probably find myself exactly in Hero's shoes on this hand...min raise pf with lots of callers, good odds, great drawing hand.

I just dont see how anyone could ever consider folding this turn...I dont know why we're even talking about this hand.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Too early to get into a big hand...

One more thing, if the title of your post is really how you feel, fold PF please.
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