55 on the bubble

[jeffraider]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

SB (t2415)
BB (t550)
UTG (t2515)
Hero (t940)
Button (t1580)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t940 (All-In)</font>

Is this automatic?

[Karak567]

Yes.

[jeffraider]

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Yes.

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I RAISE YOU THIS HAND THEN (the actual hand I meant to post d'oh)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t3910)
SB (t1900)
BB (t930)
Hero (t1260)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t200.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1260 (All-In)</font>

[curtains]

Yes they are both automatic.

[jeffraider]

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Yes they are both automatic.

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Cool, thanks so much for your help! I was a little unsure of it because I've got a few hundred chips on the short stack and there was "only" 200 to get rather than the standard 300. It doesn't matter but I was called by ATo and he won the coinflip.

[Bill Poker]

how about this one, too early to push? fold?


No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t2310)
SB (t2200)
BB (t2100)
UTG(t3060)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q9s.
1 fold, Hero raises to t2310 (All-In)

[flyby4553]

I dont think you need to push here, but if the SB and BB have been reasonably tight its probably fine.

[curtains]

Well I hate folding, so it's between the other options.

[Nick M]

I disagree in the second one. The BB is short and he is going to call with a lot of hands. You are at best a flip here so I fold. If the SB and BB were reversed I push.

[curtains]

Folding is really quite terrible in the 2nd hand. Your analysis seems to be based on random instinct and no concrete math, which is basically what this stage of a sit and go is all about.

If you turned your 55 faceup, it's +CHIP EV to push with about 2900 in chips. You have 1200 chips, this isn't a remotely close decision. Constantly folding hands like this will cost you a lot of money in the long run.

Of course chip EV is not the only thing to come into play, however the discrepency here is too large. If you put everyone on an unrealistically loose calling range, then its breakeven according to eastbay's program. Using normalish ranges its +EV by about .3-.8 depending on the ranges.