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Old 05-16-2005, 01:23 PM
Meatmaw Meatmaw is offline
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Default KQs large stack (Party $55)

My feeling is to push this. I ran it through SGA (eastbay's tool) and put the opps on 22+,A2+,KTs+,KJo+ which seemed pretty loose and it was break even $EV. If I put them on what I figured was more likely (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) then it was +0.5% $EV (and still +$EV as long as not everyone was as loose as the first range. I've been inclined to interpret the % more toward pushing when I'm desperate (Short) and toward folding when I'm large. Thoughts on this?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t (5 handed) converter

SB (t1210)
BB (t1370)
UTG (t2272)
Hero (t3313)
Button (t1835)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:31 PM
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The blinds didn't come across for me, but certainly worth a push (I'm assuming they are 200-300ish). Such a good drawing hand though...if the blinds are any smaller, I would love to raise 3x and see a flop here. (coming from a fan of post flop).
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:57 PM
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Actually the blinds were 100/200 but 2nd large stack had folded.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:58 PM
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Please fix your HH. TY!
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:03 PM
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What is wrong with the HH?
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:04 PM
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Yeah, I suppose 3x would commit the two short blinds anyway. A limp might set you up for a push from the blinds (which I would gladly take), but Button might also have joined in the growing pot prior - or worse yet, pushed back himself because of your limp. [not that you were considering, just running through the scenarios]
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: KQs large stack (Party $55)

I'm also interested in what other people think here. My instinct would be to push but with such a large stack the additional 300 chips might not be worth it as against any reasonable calling range your a coinflip or worse (except a hand like KJ). Thoughts?
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:09 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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I'm also interested in what other people think here. My instinct would be to push but with such a large stack the additional 300 chips might not be worth it as against any reasonable calling range your a coinflip or worse (except a hand like KJ). Thoughts?

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Push. Not even close.

Maybe you don't need 300 chips, but the other players certainly do. You have a big stack and a good hand. Keep hammering the shortstacks until they get desparate.

Big stacks should not fear coinflips against short stacks.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:34 PM
Meatmaw Meatmaw is offline
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Not even close because you put them on (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) or tighter? Because, as I said before, if you put them on (22+,A2+,KTs+,KJo+) or looser, it *is* close, unless there are other considerations, which is why I'm posting (to hear what those are etc). Thanks,

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Old 05-16-2005, 03:39 PM
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Not even close because you put them on (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) or tighter? Because, as I said before, if you put them on (22+,A2+,KTs+,KJo+) or looser, it *is* close, unless there are other considerations, which is why I'm posting (to hear what those are etc). Thanks,

-Mm

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even tighter than your first range there. ATs+, 77+. Of course the smaller of the stacks will be slightly looser, but as a whole I think the range will be tightish
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