Karak owns me...moronic call on my part, right?

[pergesu]

Aight I knew he'd be pushing with crap. He'd be retarded not to. But look at those stacks! I was the retard for making the call, right? I'm not playing for first anymore, so might as well let one of those other guys run out.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (t6451)
SB (t545)
Hero (t900)
UTG (t104)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Button pushes, hero calls

Flop: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Turn: (t600) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

River: (t600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Final Pot: t600

[Karak567]

At least you didn't call me the villain!

I don't think it was a bad call. You KNEW I was pushing any two there and I knew you knew too, I was just hoping you wouldn't have a hand to call me with.

If you did win, you doubled up and had a good stack and a good shot at 2nd and with another double up could play for first.

I don't blame you for the call. Not sure I would have the balls to make it myself, though.

[adanthar]

Nah, it was a bad call. Look up the ICM; AK would be close here.

[microbet]

Perg, you are right. It was a bad call.

If either of you, or anyone else, thinks A6 was even close to a call, please do the ICM calcs putting Karak on any two and find the range of hands for which it is a +$EV call.

I already did it, it is very easy, but you should do it yourself. First one to post it gets a gold star.

[pergesu]

I just ran it through SNGPT, and because of the 1 BB limitation, I set the other two stacks to 400. Said I'd need 99+ to call...so since one was substantially smaller than 400, and the other just a tad higher, I probably need better than that.

Still learning.

[microbet]

No gold star yet. I ran it through Eastbay's program, got that message, changed it to 400 to see what would happen, thought it would be too much different, then used dethgrind's website and pokerstove.

[KingDan]

Theres a post somewhere about how to use ICM but I can't find it.

Anyone have it in their favorites/bookmarks?

[pergesu]

Alright, I got the first part. Calling is worth 19% of the prize pool, compared to 24.4% for folding.

Want to give me some insight into an easy way to figure out the min hand I need, rather than just plugging random hands in and doing the calcs over?

[microbet]

Dethgrind's web site

It has some info on how to use it.

[pergesu]

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Theres a post somewhere about how to use ICM but I can't find it.

Anyone have it in their favorites/bookmarks?

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