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Old 05-14-2005, 10:06 AM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

(SB is all in on this hand)

Pot is t445

So i have 1325 left and Button has 860. If i push, I'm only called by the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or two pair...i pushed and Button had the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and it hit but is it the right move in a low-level SNG where i can probably outplay them on other pots?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP (t3460)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t1060)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB (t45)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1525)</font>
UTG (t1910)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t200, Hero checks.

Flop: (t500) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero calls ???
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:11 AM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

Do you like getting your money in as a 70 % favorite?

I do.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:39 AM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

there are seven other spades in the deck. you're forgetting about someone with a Kx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or Qx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] holding, both of which you end up drawing dead.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:47 AM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

You only have 4BB if you fold and don't put another dime in the pot and you flopped a flush. You have to push.

EDIT: Okay, you have more than that, I put your stack as someone elses. I still push it. It's unlikely you're drawing dead and an all-in is making a draw the wrong move.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:53 AM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

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there are seven other spades in the deck. you're forgetting about someone with a Kx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or Qx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] holding, both of which you end up drawing dead.

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You're joking around, right? You aren't really advocating he fold a flopped flush, are you?
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Old 05-14-2005, 11:15 AM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

Don't fold this. Ever.

If you insist on folding, we'll have to play heads up next time I'm at Muckleshoot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:26 PM
ReDeYES88 ReDeYES88 is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

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If i push, I'm only called by the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or two pair

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. .at the $5+1? Come on. Think about what you just said.

.. let 'er rip.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:23 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

U played it fine, u just got unlcuky oh and one thing. DONT EVER FOLD A +$EV PLAY BECAUSE U WILL OUTPLAY FISH LATER ON THATS STUPID, NONSENSE AND REATRDED.
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:40 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

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there are seven other spades in the deck. you're forgetting about someone with a Kx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or Qx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] holding, both of which you end up drawing dead.

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You're joking around, right? You aren't really advocating he fold a flopped flush, are you?

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i'm not commenting on what i would advocate. he said if he pushes, he only getting called by an A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or two pair, which is untrue. on a flopped flush, you can't rule out Kx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] either. [cancel out Qx [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] with Queen on the flop].

ex. if he's up against K 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on that flop, he has now gone from a powerful favorite to an overwhelming 99.9% underdog. even with K 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], he's still a 99.7% underdog with a .3% chance to win.
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Old 05-14-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Yeah, yeah it\'s just a $5 SNG but this hand....

Edit: Ignore what I posted, I thought we were against the big stack.

Lori
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