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Old 05-11-2005, 06:18 AM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, intending to call, UTG+2 checks.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

I'm so lost. Especially on the turn, I think check/calling there is better, but this table is pretty loose, agressive and villain in this hand is 44/11 with like 1.5 flop aggression.
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:26 AM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

I agree that check-calling the turn is preferable, since you are unlikely to get a fold from a better hand, and very likely to get a 3-bet from a set, making you pay heavily for the flush draw.
Otherwise, I am also calling this one down considering your flush draw and your impression of the table.
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:26 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

Why don't you 3-bet the flop here, folding the turn if he caps?
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:28 AM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

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Why don't you 3-bet the flop here, folding the turn if he caps?

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Because I suck at limit?
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Old 05-11-2005, 08:20 AM
mikeyKay mikeyKay is offline
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

check raising the turn is the worst of both worlds. it stops a bluffer and makes you put more money in when you are behind. i would 3-bet the flop, and take it from there.

-mike
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Old 05-11-2005, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

I'd pop him back on the flop and then check / call on the turn and river.
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:33 AM
Wada Wada is offline
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

Am I wrong thinking the check raise on the turn was not so bad? The raise protects his hand from BB, who might have been holding something marginal that could have beat hero on the river. Or BB could have even been holding Q9 himself. Hero also has a nice redraw to the flush along with his TP.
Villain could be betting and raising on a number of hands, T9, J9, 88. I would check call the river as well.
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:45 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: Q9s in SB flops top pair, I\'m lost

I don't think the turn c/r is so bad, but calling a river bet after he 3-bets the turn would be.
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