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Old 05-10-2005, 01:40 AM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

BB (t650)
UTG (t825)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t1410)
MP2 (t2515)
MP3 (t665)
CO (t950)
Hero (t925)
SB (t1285)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t60</font>, MP2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t190, MP3 calls t190.

Flop: (t855) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t800</font>, MP3 calls t415 (All-In), Hero folds.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

these things are so short that whenever i have aces, my intent is to get all of my chips to the middle of the table by the flop. i dunno though, this could be a leak (albeit a small one).
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

I think you have MP2 beat here I can't see him leading out betting the Q. I'd say he's on the flush or straight draw or possibly the T. But MP3 has to have you beat with a Q.

Interesting thing to look at here is that if you fold you have t675. If you call and have MP2 beat you will get t520 back. I still fold but I hate folding AA.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

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these things are so short that whenever i have aces, my intent is to get all of my chips to the middle of the table by the flop. i dunno though, this could be a leak (albeit a small one).

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What level do you play?

On this particular hand, I think it matters a lot.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

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I think you have MP2 beat here I can't see him leading out betting the Q. I'd say he's on the flush or straight draw or possibly the T. But MP3 has to have you beat with a Q.

Interesting thing to look at here is that if you fold you have t675. If you call and have MP2 beat you will get t520 back. I still fold but I hate folding AA.

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I like you. This was my exact line of thinking.

With the blinds at that level, I felt I still felt I had plenty of time.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

I think MP2 has a flush draw

I think MP3 has the Queen (maybe a T - depending on buyin).

Too tired to think of how to do the math for this, but I don't like this situation. There is a sidepot to consider. If it was just you to call, I'd call quickly.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

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these things are so short that whenever i have aces, my intent is to get all of my chips to the middle of the table by the flop. i dunno though, this could be a leak (albeit a small one).

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What level do you play?

On this particular hand, I think it matters a lot.

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i play at the 22s, and i didnt see that there are 2 in the pot before you, i fold and reach for a swig of the most potent booze i can find.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

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If it was just you to call, I'd call quickly.

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Cancel my call vote. I didn't realize there was a caller in front of you (didn't read replies until after I voted).
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Old 05-10-2005, 02:08 AM
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I would call. The one guy who opens allin for 800 almost never has a queen. The guy who calls allin for 400 into a ginormous pot with 1000 1200+ chips in it doesn't need a freaking queen. Plenty of idiots on PP will do that with 66.

If you beat the guy with 800 you have almost as many chips as if you were to just fold, combined with the chance that you are winning now, I think it's an easy call.
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Old 05-10-2005, 02:10 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Lay down this AA (don\'t worry, it\'s postflop)?

I think you should play your AA here.

If MP3 had more chips he was calling off then perhaps I'd *consider* folding.

Yugoslav
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