Evenkeal's play, questionable?

[xPuns1her]

Ok, I've decided to take a break from playing poker on Party for a week or so due to my tilt, lack of knowledge, and anger issues. So I've begun lurking and reading posts and watching two plus two'ers on Party. I was watching two of "evenkeal" aka Gigabet's table. Maybe I'm wrong here but are these plays awful or is it just me. Perhaps someone whos skilled at poker SNG's high limit can shed some light on what they would of done.

Hand 1:

***** Hand History for Game 2024635651 *****
NL Hold'em $1000 Buy-in + $65 Entry Fee Trny:12066527 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Monday, May 09, 20:36:02 EDT 2005
Table Step 5 #983602 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: NUTZREALBIG ( $1255 )
Seat 3: IWANNALEARN ( $1120 )
Seat 4: bean_mo ( $1000 )
Seat 5: URmyRailbird ( $975 )
Seat 6: TeaneckNJ ( $940 )
Seat 7: richard466 ( $1850 )
Seat 8: Evenkeal ( $970 )
Seat 9: lastwin1969 ( $930 )
Seat 10: goodLgirl ( $960 )
Trny:12066527 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
TeaneckNJ folds.
richard466 folds.
Evenkeal calls [30].
lastwin1969 calls [30].
goodLgirl folds.
NUTZREALBIG folds.
IWANNALEARN calls [30].
bean_mo folds.
URmyRailbird checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 7h, 2h ]
URmyRailbird checks.
Evenkeal checks.
lastwin1969 bets [30].
IWANNALEARN calls [30].
URmyRailbird folds.
Evenkeal raises [60].
lastwin1969 calls [30].
IWANNALEARN calls [30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
Evenkeal is all-In [880]
lastwin1969 folds.
IWANNALEARN calls [880].
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
Evenkeal shows [ Ah, Th ] high card ace.
IWANNALEARN shows [ 4d, Ad ] a straight, ace to five.
IWANNALEARN wins 2075 chips from the main pot with a straight, ace to five.
Evenkeal finished in ninth place.
Evenkeal has left the table.


Sorry about the lack of hand converter on this one.

Hand 2:

***** Hand History for Game 2024646974 *****
NL Hold'em $1000 Buy-in + $65 Entry Fee Trny:12065779 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, May 09, 20:38:13 EDT 2005
Table Step 5 #983423 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: RagingDeuces ( $1160 )
Seat 2: genoa_st ( $955 )
Seat 3: Evenkeal ( $535 )
Seat 4: waynecoal ( $1195 )
Seat 5: ComeOnPhish ( $1035 )
Seat 6: lastbuyin101 ( $1055 )
Seat 7: PushPushPush ( $825 )
Seat 9: NUTZREALBIG ( $1805 )
Seat 10: calmjackal ( $1435 )
Trny:12065779 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Evenkeal is all-In [535]
waynecoal folds.
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ComeOnPhish folds.
lastbuyin101 folds.
PushPushPush folds.
NUTZREALBIG folds.
calmjackal folds.
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RagingDeuces is all-In [1110]
genoa_st folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 4s, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
Evenkeal shows [ 3d, 3s ] two pairs, fours and threes.
RagingDeuces shows [ Kc, Ks ] two pairs, kings and fours.
RagingDeuces wins 625 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and fours.
RagingDeuces wins 1170 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and fours.
Evenkeal finished in ninth place.
Evenkeal has left the table.

He-She finished ninth in both games.

I am missing something here or is this below average play? Not to accuse or deface Gigabet's game at all. I dont know [censored] about poker but I'm hoping someone can prove me wrong or support me on this one.


My take is that in both situations it's way too early to make any moves without premium hands like AA,KK, or QQ.

[Nottom]

Well hand 1, is obviously a risky play and its based on a read that they need a monster to call. Unfortunately he ran into one.

Hand 2 is only marginally questionable at worst. If the blinds were going to go up in the next couple hands this should be an autopush.

[Degen]

i think you are the biggest donkey on this forum

wanna get a private table and prove me wrong? PM me.

[gumpzilla]

I don't really see what's wrong with either of these plays. In the first hand, he had a big draw and happened to run into a straight, and a rather improbable straight at that. A lot of the time people will fold, and he'll generally have about nine outs when they don't, so it's a reasonable shot to take. In the second case, he was pretty shortstacked. He pushed. He ran into KK. It happens.

[xPuns1her]

Why bet 800+chips to win a 200+chips pot that early in a tournament even if you have a read. Any of the other players could have a set, straight, even top pair.

[xPuns1her]

To edit my post as it seems the replies didnt get it.. I wasnt sure if these plays were correct or not. Simply say yes they were and that would help me out alot more than saying...

i think you are the biggest donkey on this forum

wanna get a private table and prove me wrong? PM me.

-degan (read:[censored]).

[bones]

You're the guy that called with J high on a read and proudly made a post proclaiming your newly found reading abilities. Surely if anyone understand going with a read, it's you.

And in these games, top pair doesn't even consider calling there.

[Gigabet]

The first one I pushed on the turn because the card looked very safe, the pot was 300, and I had established a little strength in the hand. I didn't make a pot size bet because with my rep for the last few steps, I felt that someone would push over me with almost nothing.

The second hand should be very obvious why I pushed, that is automatic.

[Voltron87]

stop putting those stupid little spades icons on your posts.

[xPuns1her]

Ok, thanks for explaining your actions. I'm still learning here and that helps alot actually. I like the tight-aggressive play.