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Old 05-09-2005, 02:12 AM
xPuns1her xPuns1her is offline
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Default Gigabet, WOW

Just read this post...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...mp;o=&vc=1

Wow, after read this piece of amazing advice and articulating the opposite of how I've handeled playing poker up to this point it really opened my eyes. I took a step down from the $215's and played a $109 after I read it keeping notes on all of the players at the table. Eventually I pretty much knew what cards people had by how they played. It got down to heads up with my and another player I had great reads on. This hand came up and I never would of made the call I did in this situation if I didnt know for a fact that my Jack was higher than any card in my opponents hand. Previous to this hand I had been raising to 800 not 900 like I did in this hand and my opponent had been folding. The raise to 900 I could tell made my opponent think I was stealing and he proceeded to go allin like I thought he would with nothing and I called. Keeping in mind that I'm still pretty shitty at poker this play would of been great if I myself had actually had a hand but I didnt... haha.. oh well...


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (2 handed) converter

Hero (t6350)
BB (t3650)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t700</font>, Hero calls t2750.

Flop: (t3850) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3850) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3850) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3850

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 5c Tc (full house, fives full of tens).
Hero has Js 7s (one pair, fives).
Outcome: BB wins t3850. </font>

Incidently this beat rolled right off my back because I felt all warm inside knowing that for once I actually made the right play using my judgement on how the PERSON played.
I ended up getting second by the way after I flopped an open ended and it missed.

Now I'm PUMPED to go play more of this PEOPLE game.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

I hope this is a poorly thought out gimmick account...
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:17 AM
xPuns1her xPuns1her is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

What are you talking about? Please dont respond if youre just going to say sarcastic crap like that. thanks man
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:17 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

regardless of what you have, you don't call with jack high!

poosh not call, weak play
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

seconds of my life wasted: 36
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:19 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

[ QUOTE ]
regardless of what you have, you don't call with jack high!

poosh not call, weak play

[/ QUOTE ]

well perhaps if its j10s or j9s, but lay this down, terrible
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:21 AM
xPuns1her xPuns1her is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

Answer me this... was it not the correct call if you could see his cards?
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

if i had the same read, i would have made the same call

well played


Andre

EDIT: If you could see his cards, it might be a fold because you don't have him dominated, but with a J and a 7...if you put him on a re-steal with crap there is a decent shot you have a bigger 7 or J than he does.

This is a 60/40 situation, if you think you can outplay him, this isn't a horrible fold IF you can see the cards....though you'll never be able to, so if you have that read, IMO its a call.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

Just because two variables are highly correlated does not mean that one causes the other. In statistical terms, we say that correlation does not imply causation. There are many good examples of correlation which are nonsensical when interpreted in terms of causation.

you are not able to see his hand, therefore how do you konw he didn't have q high
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Gigabet, WOW

Like Gigabet said if you have a strong judgement on a player that you've got good notes on for the SNG then follow that judgement even if it means busted out of that particular tournament. I knew he had absolute rags in this situation.

If this particular player had a hand he would of called to trap and then bet the flop... thats another thing I had on him.
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