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Old 05-08-2005, 01:51 AM
suited_ace suited_ace is offline
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Default Pushing at the bubble (a check-up)

I'm less than satisfied with my bubble play, so I'd like to have your opinion on a few hands. As always, explaining the reason behind your decision is always appreciated.


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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

BB (t1965)
UTG (t4190)
Hero (t845)
SB (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero?

2.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter

Button (t3051)
SB (t2190)
BB (t2152)
Hero (t607)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero?

3.

Note: I pushed the previous hand with A6o and got called by the SB (he had 54s)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

SB (t2394)
BB (t1990)
UTG (t2302)
Hero (t1314)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero?

4.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

BB (t1315)
Hero (t995)
Button (t2590)
SB (t3100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero?

5.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t2943)
SB (t530)
Hero (t805)
UTG (t3722)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t530 (All-In)</font>, Hero?
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Pushing at the bubble (a check-up)

OP, do you know how to do $EV/ICM analysis? If not, you should learn. It will make your decisions much easier.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:53 AM
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Yeah, but only to *call* all-ins...
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Pushing at the bubble (a check-up)

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Yeah, but only to *call* all-ins...

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So you know how to do addition, but not subtraction? Time to learn. Pushing analysis is far more beneficial than calling analysis. Time to learn.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:57 AM
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You're right, it's the same thing. I wish I had eastbay's program to make my life easier...
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:58 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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You're right, it's the same thing. I wish I had eastbay's program to make my life easier...

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that's a mistake IMO. That would be like learning to use a calculator, but you don't know how to add and subtract on paper.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:00 AM
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At a quick glance hands 1-3 are very easy pushes.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: Pushing at the bubble (a check-up)

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At a quick glance hands 1-3 are very easy pushes.

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i agree.

hand 4: id say its dependent on the table and table image. if the blinds went up next hand i would push for sure.

whats everyones thoughs on 5? id say call but its close
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:56 AM
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1,2,3 I like as pushes.

4 depends on BB. If he seems to be trying to hang on, it is a push. If SB has been really loose, it could foil this push too. Also, if you have already pushed a bunch, you might pass this one up.

5 is tough, but I think a call. I would do the ICM on 5, but Scuba has assigned that work to suited_ace and he should probably do it.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: Pushing at the bubble (a check-up)

#5 is a call, and it's not at all close. There are 730 chips in the pot, and it costs you 330 to call. SB is (correctly) pushing any two cards here. This call is significantly +EV.

BTW, the button's play in hand 5 is terrible, whatever his cards were.
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