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Old 05-07-2005, 04:35 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Unopened pots on button at .50/1

So rarely does it happen that it is folded to you at the button at this level that I haven't gained much experience.

As a rule of thumb:
-which hands do you raise?
-which hands do you call with?
-which hands do you fold?

I multitable so I don't get very good reads, so assume you have no viable read.
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Unopened pots on button at .50/1

I raise 66+, any ace, K7s+, some offsuit broadway cards.

I call very rarely (really just 55-).

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I multitable so I don't get very good reads

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Old 05-07-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Unopened pots on button at .50/1

i had that same question earlier today playing except i was CO with QTo and sat there for a second. it was a tight table too. i wanted to raise, but i folded.

flopped 2 pair with a rivered full house [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] and all the villagers cried.
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:47 PM
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i had that same question earlier today playing except i was CO with QTo and sat there for a second. it was a tight table too. i wanted to raise, but i folded.

flopped 2 pair with a rivered full house [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] and all the villagers cried.

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I guess you already know that you should raise this oh about 95% of the time. (and this time wasn't one of that 5%)
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Unopened pots on button at .50/1

Almost never call first in on the button. I don't even know
if I have done that. This is what I steal/defend with, around 35-40 % of all hands depending on opponents:

Raise with these hands on the cut off:
Any Axs, A8, Q9s, JT, J9s, pairs down to 44

Raise with these hands on the Button:
Any A, K7, Kxs, Q7s, Q9, J8, J7s, T8s, 98s pairs down to 44

Defend in BB:
any A, any K Q5 J7 T7 98 54s 97s T7s any pair

Reraise with your better hands, don't just call with TT for instance to slowplay. Make him fear stealing from you!

All better hands than above of course, J7 means you should play J8, J9 etc.

If the table is tight steal from MP3 with almost the same standards as CO steals. Any two cards T or higher, A8 and K9s do fine.

If the blinds are calling stations don't steal with hands that lack showdown value like J7. Learn to steal early at low limits where it's cheap, I play crypto 1/2 right now and stealing is key there. Good players steal with 45 % of all hands, strive to have at least 30 %.
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Unopened pots on button at .50/1

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i had that same question earlier today playing except i was CO with QTo and sat there for a second. it was a tight table too. i wanted to raise, but i folded.

flopped 2 pair with a rivered full house [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] and all the villagers cried.

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I guess you already know that you should raise this oh about 95% of the time. (and this time wasn't one of that 5%)

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i wish there was a crying graemlin 'cause i'd fill the screen with them. i just wasn't sure *crying voice*
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Old 05-07-2005, 11:25 PM
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I'd just about never call here and raise any hand i was playing. Hands to be played really depends on the blinds.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:07 AM
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I agree, thats one of the most important parts about gametime/playerview, when on blind steals.
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Old 05-16-2005, 12:54 AM
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I raise 66+, any ace, K7s+, some offsuit broadway cards.



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Raising "any" ace into blinds who likely defend far to much is a mistake.

Some Offsuit broadways cards?

which ones - if any big offsuit cards are the ones you want to be raising liberaly if it's folded to you.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:12 AM
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Almost never call first in on the button. I don't even know
if I have done that. This is what I steal/defend with, around 35-40 % of all hands depending on opponents:

Raise with these hands on the cut off:
Any Axs, A8, Q9s, JT, J9s, pairs down to 44

Raise with these hands on the Button:
Any A, K7, Kxs, Q7s, Q9, J8, J7s, T8s, 98s pairs down to 44

Defend in BB:
any A, any K Q5 J7 T7 98 54s 97s T7s any pair

Reraise with your better hands, don't just call with TT for instance to slowplay. Make him fear stealing from you!

All better hands than above of course, J7 means you should play J8, J9 etc.

If the table is tight steal from MP3 with almost the same standards as CO steals. Any two cards T or higher, A8 and K9s do fine.

If the blinds are calling stations don't steal with hands that lack showdown value like J7. Learn to steal early at low limits where it's cheap, I play crypto 1/2 right now and stealing is key there. Good players steal with 45 % of all hands, strive to have at least 30 %.

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Your range is far far to wide.

Quite frankly I don't understand how you can say stealing is important at Uber Loose Crypto Skins. They defend far far to much for you to be raising half of those hands.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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