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Old 05-06-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Stars 50+5 PLO8 Tourney Hand - Advice needed

20 left, avg is about 8k, 9 pay - was at a table with mostly below par stacks and got moved to the 'big-stack' table, first and last hand that i was dealt here after the move - i dont know whether or not to be pissed off about playing the hand in the first place, or just the results - i think playing the hand in this spot, with all the chips going in would have set me up to have a nice stack at the final table (144k chips in play total) - the more i think about it, i probably could have picked a better spot, or waited until the tables consolidated to get 10-handed - so am i an idiot for playing this hand in the first place, or should i just kick the dog a few times and move on?

PokerStars Game #1650092868: Tournament #7525161, Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level
VIII (200/400) - 2005/05/06 - 21:55:08 (ET)
Table '7525161 9' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SLS716 (6898 in chips)
Seat 3: ackbleh (25617 in chips)
Seat 4: fixera (11463 in chips)
Seat 5: canam999 (5102 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: MALLORYCPA (10966 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (9244 in chips)
canam999: posts small blind 200
MALLORYCPA: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc Ts Jd Kh]
Hero: calls 400
SLS716: folds
ackbleh: raises 1400 to 1800
fixera: folds
canam999: folds
MALLORYCPA: calls 1400
Hero: calls 1400
*** FLOP *** [3d Td 9s]
MALLORYCPA: bets 5600
Hero: calls 5600
ackbleh: raises 18217 to 23817 and is all-in
MALLORYCPA: calls 3566 and is all-in
Hero: calls 1844 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3d Td 9s] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [3d Td 9s Ks] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MALLORYCPA: shows [5h Kd Ad Jh] (HI: a flush, Ace high)
ackbleh: shows [3s Qs Qh 3h] (HI: three of a kind, Threes)
MALLORYCPA collected 3444 from side pot
Hero: shows [Qc Ts Jd Kh] (HI: a straight, Nine to King)
MALLORYCPA collected 27932 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31376 Main pot 27932. Side pot 3444. | Rake 0
Board [3d Td 9s Ks 2d]
Seat 1: SLS716 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ackbleh showed [3s Qs Qh 3h] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: fixera (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: canam999 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: MALLORYCPA (big blind) showed [5h Kd Ad Jh] and won (31376) with HI: a
flush, Ace high
Seat 9: Hero showed [Qc Ts Jd Kh] and lost with HI: a straight, Nine to King
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Old 05-06-2005, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Stars 50+5 PLO8 Tourney Hand - Advice needed

I'd have raised the max coming in with that hand fairly often. Limping would not have been bad on a passive table. Folding it is ok too if the game is loose or agro

Once I was raised preflop, I'd have folded. It's not worth going to war with ~20% of your stack out of position with a marginal hand when you should be able to steal those chips back.

Once you get that flop, all the chips go in and you play showdown poker.
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Stars 50+5 PLO8 Tourney Hand - Advice needed

It is not a bad hand to call with if there was no raise and in a very late position.
I personally would fold this hand as the pot has beenraised.
So I feel you made a mistake to call with this hand. But you made even a bigger mistake on the flop (3d Td 9s). Now you only have a top pair and a str8 draw (you dealt Qc Ts Jd Kh), I would never continue with this flop as u are a big underdog.
Your EV is 16.2% the other hands are 33.3% and 55.5%
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Stars 50+5 PLO8 Tourney Hand - Advice needed

lol, you don't know you are a big underdog on the flop as your opponent are not kind enough to show their cards to you.

You are getting 3:1 on any call with a very good draw. Folding there is a horrible decision.
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Stars 50+5 PLO8 Tourney Hand - Advice needed

thanks for the advice gergery - after thinking about it for a while last night, i should have picked a better spot as i had been playing well up to that point, and the final table was well within reach

its no consolation money-wise, but i did take 3rd in a 20+2 today to ease the pain a bit (though i was chipleader with 4 left and crapped the bed, if i knew a way to get hand histories in an intelligent manner from pokerroom, i'd post the hand that killed me)
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Old 05-07-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Stars 50+5 PLO8 Tourney Hand - Advice needed

Of course u dont know yoour opponents cards, but drawing to a str8 with two suited cards on the flop( and u dont have that flush draw) is definately bad play, especially when there was a bet and a raise.
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