need help with letting go of KK

Maurader1 · #1 05-06-2005, 02:08 AM

BB is super loose, don't need to worry about him
UTG+1 is slightly loose, MP1 is tight/passive

MP1 calling the cap pf concerned me...

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)

converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, Hero??

Redd · #2 05-06-2005, 02:18 AM

UTG+1 raises many hands that you beat here. I 3-bet for value, prepared to call a cap, then reevaluate on the turn based on the action.

At any rate, I would assume you're likely ahead at this point, and wouldn't worry too much about the cold call yet.

Emmitt2222 · #3 05-06-2005, 02:18 AM

Never let go maurader, never let go... well at least not right now. Not folding big pocket pairs when you know you are beat can be a problem, but right now that is not the case. You most likely have the best hand in a HUGE pot, you want to raise for value and see how much the other players really like their hands. If it is capped by BB I probably call down from there depending on what developes. If UTG+1 caps I may raise the turn, more likely putting him on JJ, QQ, or KK than AA just because there are more combinations. If UTG+1 3bet the turn then I call down and if the other two just slow down to the flop 3bet I just keep betting.

cold_cash · #4 05-06-2005, 02:18 AM

I would call and probably raise the turn.

Folding would suck.

Also, you don't include any kind of read on the guy doing all the betting and capping. That might be relevent.

Maurader1 · #5 05-06-2005, 02:28 AM

Sorry, that read was for UTG+1, edited...

Hero calls, BB calls

In the heat of the action, I went for the overcall by BB instead of raising for information which I realize is a mistake now

Turn: (12.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, Hero??

cold_cash · #6 05-06-2005, 02:36 AM

Raise it.

Redd · #7 05-06-2005, 02:37 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Raise it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Shillx · #8 05-06-2005, 02:41 AM

I would coldcall or 3-bet here. I kinda like coldcalling in just a 4 handed pot and I don't like folding one bit.

Maurader1 · #9 05-06-2005, 02:46 AM

Wow, am I very weak for wanting to call in this spot?

I am probably misapplying the WA/WB concept...

Hero calls, BB calls

River: (16.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero??

Can I fold now? Please?

Shillx · #10 05-06-2005, 02:48 AM

You underplayed your hand. You have to call this. He could just have a pair of queens.