missed flop wth big cards, how to proceed?

zCereal · #1 05-06-2005, 01:24 AM

reads on all 3 players in the hand is pretty much the same, semi loose passives. will call alot preflop. willing to let hands go but will call with weak draws. read is not solid though as i have not played many hands with any of them. your thoughts on my flop lead out and what should i do on the turn. this sitatuation comes up often and i dono if i am playing it right.
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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 folds, Button folds.

Turn: (5 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ...

istewart · #2 05-06-2005, 01:25 AM

I tend to bet here HU.

UATrewqaz · #3 05-06-2005, 01:31 AM

My analysis is pretty pitiful as I suck but here it is...

I would bet at it. If has nothing he will almost always fold, unless he's an uber fish. If he has something small, say a pair of 6's, he very well might call or fold, can't really predict based on your read, but there is at least SOME chance he'll fold (assuming you have a king or made a flush).

If he's got a flush he'll almost certainly raise you here, in which case you can safely fold, as you just have ace high and can't beat anything but a stone bluff.

Redd · #4 05-06-2005, 01:35 AM

Grunching.

Honestly, if they like to call I'd just check-fold the flop. Am I weak-tight?

A_C_Slater · #5 05-06-2005, 01:37 AM

I would check/fold on the flop. There's no way all 3 of them are folding 1/8 of the time here and you have no good outs. Don't feel you have to autobet because you raised preflop. The way you played I still check/fold the turn. He has to have ace high beat and if he has that beat he isn't folding. If it was HU I would bet this flop OOP.

A_C_Slater · #6 05-06-2005, 01:38 AM

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Grunching.

Honestly, if they like to call I'd just check-fold the flop. Am I weak-tight?

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No. Just sensible. Weak-tight would be raising with QQ-TT and check folding this flop because "someone has to have that king." Not AJs none of your suit and your only real out is an ace that might make someone with ace rag hit two pair anyway.

SlightlyMad · #7 05-06-2005, 01:42 AM

It's not clear how tricky he plays his made hands, or how often he's been caught bluffing ... but if he's a typical player, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, and bet/fold.

[First post after lurking here for a month.]

Goodnews · #8 05-06-2005, 01:46 AM

I'd check/fold flop. But since you bet out, and managed to thin the field, I'd bet out, fold to a raise.

Note: I am working on this portion of my game, please correct/critique me.

Goodnews · #9 05-06-2005, 01:47 AM

what is grunching?

LowDown22 · #10 05-06-2005, 01:48 AM

I tend to take a shot at these on the flop when I preflop raise and a K or A flops but misses my hand. These are the only times that I see that the loose-passives actually can respect your hand and fold. If I get raised its an easy fold.

Now since only one called I really want to bet this turn, but not sure if I would in this case as there is now a 3flush on board too.