Shoving a healthy stack on level 2

[Phoenix1010]

10+1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t870)
MP2 (t1265)
CO (t1055)
Hero (t760)
SB (t910)
BB (t1795)
UTG (t770)
UTG+1 (t575)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls t30, Hero is all-in (t760)

This kind of play has been discussed previously with a different hand. What do you think? My other question is this: what hand is better for this play, TT or AK?

[fluorescenthippo]

neither. why are you pushing here? try raising to 125 with AK. call with TT.

[Phoenix1010]

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neither. why are you pushing here? try raising to 125 with AK. call with TT.

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Yes, I'm aware of the default plays. Thanks.

[Seadood228]

I'd say TT because a typical caller in this situation will call with smaller pairs more often than Ax, and you can still have Ax domintaed with TT if the X is small.

And I like the play. I don't see too much difference between doing this on level 2 and say, level 4, except that your FE is probably much greater here. I actually prefer this to, say raising the pot to 125 with your stack. It's all well and good when you hit, but this will be a terribly difficult spot to put in a contination bet if the flop is not favorable, which it won't be most of the time.

[lastchance]

I like limping behind with TT better, because flopped set is really nice here, and in position, you love a bet to you with an overpair.

I don't think pushing is horrible here, BTW, fish are nice.

[Phoenix1010]

Anyone else?

[Nick M]

don't like it this early. Unless someone raises and there is like 3 callers of the raise. Then I might move in with 760 hoping everyone folds, but if one calls me i do have some extra value. But I really don't like gambling this early.

[dfscott]

I like this play and make it myself quite often. You either:

a) take down a nice pot right there
b) win a coin flip or better
c) bust out and start a new one

Two outta three ain't bad...

[fluorescenthippo]

interesting replys. i have learned a lot already. my previous thinking was just the standard raising but i see why that isnt profitable against this many oppenents.

I would rather push the AK. Ax is gonna call most of the time. with TT overcards will call more than underpairs.

[wuwei]

I like the play and definitely use it in this situation sometimes.

I prefer limping with TT here - you've got nice odds to play it for set value, and AK much prefers to see all 5 cards.