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05-02-2005, 09:31 PM
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AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
UTG+1 is a solid multitabling TAG, who is 18/8/1.8 after 1600 hands. I don't recall having ever seen him limp-reraise before, and I feel that I should be really concerned about AA or KK here.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls. Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. River: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls. Final Pot: 12.50 BB 
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#3
05-02-2005, 09:37 PM
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Re: AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
he's got kings. otherwise he raises the river, right?
someone pulled this crap on me yesterday with aces. limps in early. i raise on the buttom with 88 ... flopped a set. doubled up.
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#5
05-02-2005, 09:51 PM
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Re: AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
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UTG+1 is a solid multitabling TAG, who is 18/8/1.8 after 1600 hands. I don't recall having ever seen him limp-reraise before, and I feel that I should be really concerned about AA or KK here. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls. Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. River: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls. Final Pot: 12.50 BB [/ QUOTE ] With TPTK I raise the flop, if for no other reason than to tell him, "I'm here, and I have a better than random hand." Also with the flush draw out, I want to charge the drawers, if any. I agree that he looks like maybe KK, but why did he call Hero's bet when the Ace fell on the river? Crying? bc
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#6
05-02-2005, 09:57 PM
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Re: AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
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With TPTK I raise the flop, if for no other reason than to tell him, "I'm here, and I have a better than random hand." Also with the flush draw out, I want to charge the drawers, if any. [/ QUOTE ] what good does telling him you have a hand do? all it does is open up a good spot for him to 3-bet you, which will happen close to 100% of the time given the opponents description. if the villain has AA or KK, you charge yourself more to get to a showdown. if he's betting something like an unimproved AKs, you give him a chance to fold on the turn when he's drawing to 3 outs. raising the flop doesn't charge the flush draws anything, it's actually doing them a favor.
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#7
05-02-2005, 10:19 PM
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Re: AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
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I play it the same with the plan of calling 1 river bet if I don't improve. [/ QUOTE ]
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#8
05-02-2005, 10:22 PM
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Re: AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
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[ QUOTE ] With TPTK I raise the flop, if for no other reason than to tell him, "I'm here, and I have a better than random hand." Also with the flush draw out, I want to charge the drawers, if any. [/ QUOTE ] what good does telling him you have a hand do? all it does is open up a good spot for him to 3-bet you, which will happen close to 100% of the time given the opponents description. if the villain has AA or KK, you charge yourself more to get to a showdown. if he's betting something like an unimproved AKs, you give him a chance to fold on the turn when he's drawing to 3 outs. raising the flop doesn't charge the flush draws anything, it's actually doing them a favor. [/ QUOTE ] How about knocking out the SB which eliminates some chance of being drawn out on if you are ahead.
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#9
05-02-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: AQo facing a limp-reraise, and not liking it
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How about knocking out the SB which eliminates some chance of being drawn out on if you are ahead. [/ QUOTE ] Thats not worth having to put 3 bets into the pot with the worst hand a lot of the time, IMO.
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