Ping G2 Shaft Question

[ceyoung]

I'm a 3-5 handicap golfer (haven't had a real calculated index for four years, but the last one was a 2.7) and am going to be getting a new 8.5deg G2. I play an old Titleist 975D with an Innovative 2.5 torque shaft. I prefer the Aldila NV-65 shaft to the Pro Launch 65. According to the launch meter I was swinging at 112-114mph. They only had the Aldila in a stiff shaft so I didn't have a chance to hit the x-stiff. Should I order a stiff or x-stiff shaft? Also, would there be any benefit in getting the NV-75 shaft or the Speeder 757? I can order what ever combination I decide on, and price isn't really a big deal.

[ceyoung]

shameless bump. cause im thinking of ordering it today.

[ghostface]

Speeder 757 is godly.

I have it in a 975J I got off E-Bay. Its really through the roof though, seeing how I got it in my club for 230. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Also, do you have a quick swing or a smooth slower swing? Thats what really matters for shaft flex at that clubhead speed.

[ceyoung]

I'm not really sure. I'd probably say quicker cause i can feel the shaft load at the top sometimes. i like having the lighter shaft of the NV-65, but the heavier 757 and NV75 have torque's around 2.5 vs 3.5 in the NV65. My shaft right now is a 2.5, is the torque going be a big difference?

[ghostface]

Jeez I'm out of the golf loop. Lower torque means lower trajectory right? If so you want lower torque and stiffer shafts with a quicker swing. Otherwise there will be some balls going left prettty fast.

I could be wayy off here but I think thats right.

With the 757 and an 8.5 I still hit the ball too damn high.

Edit: Torque. I'm retarded. Maybe thats why I'm hitting the ball so straight with this shaft. I think lower torque will make you hit the ball straighter with a quicker swing, and you will still get the load out of the shaft for distance.

I've been up all night so I'm probably speaking Spanish or something.

[ceyoung]

i think that lower torque means lower horizontal dispersion. but im not an expert as i've always had people recommend shafts for me.

[ghostface]

See the edit.

it is the Flex Point that is more important. Flex point will affect the ball flight. The lower the flex point, the higher the trajectory. Flex point however has very little effect on the trajectory of the ball as compared to the loft of the club.

Torque is another subject that we should take note. Torque is the twisting movement of the shaft during the golf swing. Torque is measured in degrees. The more torque a shaft has, the softer it will feel. A shaft with a 3 degree torque will feel much stiffer that one that has 6 degree torque. Torque, to a certain extend, has effect on the shot dispersion. More of the effect would have been contributed by the swing itself. Like flex, it loads and unloads during the swing. If the swing were constant, the loading and unloading would then be constant. Every shaft, graphite or steel, there is a certain amount of torque. Most steel shafts have up to about 3 degrees of torque. Most of the modern shaft in the market has less than 8 degrees of torque. Torque however has slight effect on ball trajectory, the lesser the torque, the lower the trajectory.

Flex, is the most important factor in the shaft. It affects distance and direction. Getting the correct flex in your golf equipment is of the utmost importance. Different shaft manufacturers have differences in their specifications of flex. One manufacturer’s Amateur Flex might be another’s Regular Flex. Generally, the flex are measured as (L) for light flex, (A) for amateur flex, (R) for regular flex, (S) for stiff flex and (XS) for extra stiff. There are 2 methods of measuring flex. The more traditional Shaft Deflection Board and the modern Frequency Analyzer. Both are effective in the measurement of flex

Fujikura recommends an X-Stiff for your swing speed.

[JTrout]

ceyoung,
if you like the feel of the 2.5 torque shaft you've been using (it hasn't felt too stiff, the shots haven't felt "thin"), then I would recommend keeping a similar torque in your next shaft.
I've heard nothing but praise for the Aldila shafts.
I would lean toward the heavier shaft, however, with your swing speed.
I'm assuming standard length.

[ceyoung]

standard length. I hit a titleist with a speeder shaft in it ~75 grams compared to the Aldila with the 65 gram shaft. with the heavier shaft i was losing about 5 mph. other than the lower torque, what are the benefits of the heavier shaft?

[JTrout]

Proper torque is a big deal. This doesn't mean that lower is always better. Going from 2.5 to 3.5 is a bigger change (to me) than going from S to X (or visa/versa).

The extra weight adds to the feel of the club. The shaft will play a little stiffer.

5mph seems like alot for 10g.
What was your sample size?
Was it a blind test, or did you know what you were swinging?

If you are sold on lighter,...
Maybe consider the Grafalloy Blue shaft.

Grafalloy Blue- 63g 2.8* torque
Aldila NV 65- 67g 3.5* torque
Aldila NV 75- 78g 2.8* torque