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View Poll Results: 55 in TAG folded to you in MP2
Fold 30 46.15%
Call 7 10.77%
Riase 28 43.08%
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:55 AM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

Hands: 20,011
VPIP: 28.13
VPSB: 50.09
Fold SB to Steal: 76.54
Fold BB to Steal: 48.44
Att. to Steal: 45.46
Won When Saw Flop: 33.25
Went to SD: 31.06
Won at SD: 51.74
PFR: 14.22

Other Stats:

Aggression:
Flop: 1.93
Turn: 2.79
River: 2.26

First Action after PFR:
Raise: 7.13%
Bet: 56.68%
Call: 10.82%
Check: 6.92%
Check/Raise: 1.09%
Fold: 2.95%

So what's going on here? I'm thinking about moving limits. Thanks for the poll answers.


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Old 04-30-2005, 11:00 AM
brazilio brazilio is offline
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

What I don't get is, I have a VP$IP hovering around 19.5 or so, and I just don't see playable hands at 2/4 or 3/6 where I'm not starting to coldcall with a lot more hands that I just don't see as playable when I'm HU or 3-way.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:05 AM
CallMeIshmael CallMeIshmael is offline
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

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What I don't get is, I have a VP$IP hovering around 19.5 or so, and I just don't see playable hands at 2/4 or 3/6 where I'm not starting to coldcall with a lot more hands that I just don't see as playable when I'm HU or 3-way.

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I agree with this.

I just cant think that there is another 8-10 percent of hands that are playable.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:11 AM
Munga30 Munga30 is offline
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

Honestly, I think you wouldn't be posting if you hadn't won big (note the past tense) with your truly gaudy looseness. You've probably got very good table selection and hand reading skills, but you've also been running very well. Much like sthief said at 10K maybe you're a poker pioneer, or maybe you'll fail and tighten up like so many before you. Personally, I think voluntarily tightening up at 2/4 now is cheaper than taking a beatdown at 5/10 and being forced to do so.

Good luck.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

even if your win rate was over 4/100 i'd still say hit up 3/6... 20K isn't enough hands to come close to defining your true win rate... so if you're feeling comfortable beating this game, have few questions, and have the bankroll, by all means, move up to 3/6 and re-evaluate.

i might also spend some time at 1/2 6-max, which may prove useful, if only as a primer, for dealing with the meaty 5/10 6-max games...
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

oh yeah, and if you're winning with a 28 VP$IP you're either runnning well by getting lucky, or running well by getting some of the Best Hands Ever preflop... but either way you won't survive if you continue this at 2/4, let alone 3/6...

this isn't an insult, but i don't think you're the poker pioneer... i think the close to 30 vp$ip is the northwest passage of poker....
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

I think u should strongly consider the 6-max games. Or play less hands at full ring.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

I think if you presume a successful 28 VPIP player, this is essentially what his stats would look like. I don't know that I'm willing to do that, but I'm not rushing to judgment against you either.
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Old 04-30-2005, 02:36 PM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default bump, vote pls nt

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Old 04-30-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: 20k 2/4 Hands, need some advice

These numbers are totally out of my league, as I am tight as hell and super aggressive. I hope you win, but asking me to comment on this is like asking a moron to comment on the beauty of quantum physics; I simply don't get it, so I can't appreciate it.
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