Raisin' preflop with JTo

private joker · #1 04-29-2005, 11:23 PM

Villain is loose and very very passive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 5 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 3.66 BB

shadow29 · #2 04-29-2005, 11:24 PM

I like it.

You could bet the turn, he might fold there. But if you think that he would play an A this way (which I think he would) than this line is good.

27offsooot · #3 04-29-2005, 11:28 PM

I would bet the turn

Edit - oh yeah, PF seems standard.

private joker · #4 04-29-2005, 11:29 PM

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Why?

KDawgCometh · #5 04-29-2005, 11:31 PM

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fold equity

27offsooot · #6 04-29-2005, 11:33 PM

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A lot of opponents will call the flop with garbage, but fold the turn UI. Your jack high isn't looking all that good at SD. I think u can take this down enough. Do you have any read on how often he WTSD?

I suppose that the ace on the flop and his still calling a bet may lead u to believe he will take this to showdown with his mid pp/ crap ace. Usually, u have a lot of folding equity on the flop with an ace against reasonable opponents and when they call on a drawless flop, u're usually screwed. But here, against this opponent, i think firing one more is justified.

private joker · #7 04-29-2005, 11:33 PM

What's he folding?

KDawgCometh · #8 04-29-2005, 11:35 PM

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considering your read he could be trying to hit his eight and would fold to another shell

private joker · #9 04-29-2005, 11:40 PM

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when they call on a drawless flop, u're [sic] usually screwed.

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That's what I'm thinking -- this flop can't be any more drawless.

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But here, against this opponent, i think firing one more is justified.

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This may be true.

ErrantNight · #10 04-29-2005, 11:43 PM

how could you not bet your 4-straight on the river?

(seriously, though, take a stab on the turn, with the intention of putting another bet into this pot only when hell freezes over)