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Old 04-28-2005, 06:43 PM
Broken Glass Can Broken Glass Can is offline
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Remember the Italian Communist Journalist who was shot at on the road to the Baghdad airport?

She said they were travelling slowly at 25-30 mph. It turns out that the incident was recorded by satellite. They went some 90 yards in 3 seconds, which is 60 mph, and were only 46 yards (1.5 seconds) from the checkpoint when soldiers finally fired upon them.

She lied, the soldiers acted responsibly and self-defensively. (source: Heard on CBS Evening News)

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Old 04-28-2005, 06:52 PM
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I'm not at all surprised, I sensed it from the start. A lot of anti-war people staged stunts to get themselves hurt to advocate thier cause. Most of them got embarrased, like those human shield people that were supposed to stand in front of hospitals and instead Saddam made them stand in front of weapons depots. Her's was probably accidental though, but her response to it was reprehensible.

There seems to be a whole wave of faking things to advocate causes. The women who pretended there was a finger in her wendy's chili when she put it there. The college professor who pretended to be a victim of hate crime even though she spraypainted her own car. People are [censored] up.
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:53 PM
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Hi,
You are missing the point here. She has already claimed that American soldiers wanted to kill her, which is an insane claim, so she has no credibility.

The point is that US soldiers have been portrayed as very trigger-happy in Europe prior to this and this incident strengthed that impression. Even Tony Blair is distancing himself from US now to avoid political damage.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:08 PM
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The point is she lied, got a lot of air time, and no ones ever gonna find out the truth. I'm sure there are plenty of crazy wacko Euopeans that do think US troops tried to kill her.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:24 PM
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The point is she lied, got a lot of air time, and no ones ever gonna find out the truth. I'm sure there are plenty of crazy wacko Euopeans that do think US troops tried to kill her.

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Yes,
It is not hot news anymore. Haven't seen anything here about the aquittal of the soldiers.

What are the Pentagon propagandists doing? They lose EVERY PR-war.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:38 PM
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I'm not at all surprised, I sensed it from the start. A lot of anti-war people staged stunts to get themselves hurt to advocate thier cause.

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Do you really believe they risk their lives just to get very little attention from the news?

You have 2 options (well at least, could be more)

- Soldiers trigger happy

- Italians risking their life on purpose just to give a bad image to Americans.

Do you really think the second option is the more logical one?

If you really think so, then we live in different universes.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:42 PM
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Do you know where I can find the information about the satellite?
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:50 PM
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Do you know where I can find the information about the satellite?

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It is part of the Pentagon investigation report. I guess it must be Googled to be found, by tomorrow there should be a lot of links.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:53 PM
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You have 2 options (well at least, could be more)

- Soldiers trigger happy

- Italians risking their life on purpose just to give a bad image to Americans.

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- Italian drivers were reckless and the journalist just happened to be a nutjob.

What should the soldiers have done, sirio? A car is speeding towards you at 60 mph. You don't have all day to make a decision and it's a known tactic of the insurgents to use cars like kamikazes. This new evidence colloborates what the soldiers said about the car speeding towards. The soldiers claimed that they signaled the driver in several different ways. What more could they have done in such a short span of time?
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:01 PM
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"Her's was probably accidental though, but her response to it was reprehensible."

I'm pretty sure that was at the end of my paragraph.
Or did you read the whole paragraph.
Or think before you responded.
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