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Old 04-28-2005, 12:57 PM
taylor taylor is offline
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Default this noobs 2nd attempt..

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

BB (t1992)
UTG (t3136)
Button (t1362)
Hero (t1510)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of t300.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to t1510 (All-In)</font>, Button calls t762 (All-In).

Flop: (t2872) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2872) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t2872) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2872

Should I have seen this as an attempt to get me to push or as $11 weakness (miniraises in the lower levels w/ KJ, QTs etc)?

He had QQ.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:00 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

Just fold. You're a coinflip or dominated all the time.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

I really don't like this push. There is almost no chance button will fold to your raise, and the best you can hope for is overcards.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:01 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

He bet almost 50% of his stack. This typically means "I want to get my whole stack in, but I don't want to scare anyone off."

Once he puts in 1/2 his stack, there is no chance of him folding. It doesn't matter if it's a minraise or 5xBB raise.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:06 PM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

you have no FE over him, he's put 1/2 his stack in and you are 50 50 at best, if not a big dog. fold.
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Old 04-28-2005, 02:37 PM
BradleyT BradleyT is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

The moral of the story -

2's suck.


Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs 9s 878458 51.30 814064 47.54 19782 1.16 0.519
2c 2d 814064 47.54 878458 51.30 19782 1.16 0.481

Even Q9s is a favorite.
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:13 PM
Misfire Misfire is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

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Even Q9s is a favorite.

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Wow.
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:15 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

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Even Q9s is a favorite.

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Wow.

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hey, 67s is even better...
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:17 PM
Rojosox Rojosox is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

please keep this a secret... i love when 2s CALL against me.

lol
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:26 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: this noobs 2nd attempt..

I HATE it though when i'm I push on the bubble with AK and the SB calls with 22 (or 44 or something like that)
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