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Old 04-26-2005, 11:50 PM
spentrent spentrent is offline
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Default $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

MP (t2839)
CO (t868)
Hero (t883)
SB (t791)
BB (t1804)
UTG (t815)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero ???
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

MP (t2839)
CO (t868)
Hero (t883)
SB (t791)
BB (t1804)
UTG (t815)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero ???

[/ QUOTE ]
Buy's eastbay's program and asks a useful question like what sort of calling ranges should I be using for the SB and BB. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button

Puuuuuuuush.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button

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Puuuuuuuush.

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What calling ranges are you using for SB and BB. This isn't an auto-push...
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button



Its very difficult to come up with a range that doesnt make it a push. There may be one or two specific ranges that make it a very tiny negative EV push, however this really is a very clear allin, as you can't expect to pigeonhole your opponents so precisely.

Also if the blinds are 100-200 before it hits you, it becomes really absurd to fold.
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button

Its a fold with A2+, 22+, all broadway calling you, which is pretty reasonable at spent's level.

I'm not sure about A2 calling here, and the more aces I drop the better the push becomes, obviously.

Also, I should probably consider that garbage that Hero has crushed will call here occasionally, so I have to push some instances where the ICM says fold anyway.

Curtains will you please go on an ICM tirade.

Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: $22: 6-handed, KJo on the button


More often than not they will be tighter than your range, especially with the A2-A5o hands. Basically in a perfect world you can find a range that makes it -EV, but on average your opponents simply won't play like this.
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