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Old 04-25-2005, 01:39 PM
syphlix syphlix is offline
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Default weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

first hand of tourney...

when i get raised all-in should i be assuming i'm beat since i've got a suck kicker or do i think he's on a flushdraw?... and is it even worth it to call at this point?


***** Hand History for Game 1950348799 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:11623555 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, April 25, 13:23:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 13872 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: smitty4321 ( $800 )
Seat 5: KultasHome ( $800 )
Seat 6: mythreequeen ( $800 )
Seat 8: getmonie111 ( $800 )
Seat 7: RakeMeBaby ( $800 )
Seat 4: smyk56 ( $800 )
Seat 9: jeffsup5 ( $800 )
Seat 3: WiseMan151 ( $800 )
Seat 10: silence411 ( $800 )
Seat 2: Roberta114 ( $800 )
Trny:11623555 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RakeMeBaby [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
getmonie111 calls [15].
jeffsup5 folds.
silence411 folds.
smitty4321 folds.
Roberta114 calls [15].
WiseMan151 calls [15].
smyk56 calls [15].
KultasHome folds.
mythreequeen calls [5].
RakeMeBaby checks.
>You have options at Table 13772 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
mythreequeen checks.
RakeMeBaby checks.
getmonie111 checks.
Roberta114 bets [15].
WiseMan151 folds.
smyk56 calls [15].
mythreequeen calls [15].
RakeMeBaby raises [90].
getmonie111 folds.
Roberta114 is all-In [770]
smyk56 folds.
mythreequeen folds.
RakeMeBaby folds.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:43 PM
J-Lo J-Lo is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

i'm not patient/disciplined enough to fold this. read dependent, but i call if it is on a weekend or dinner/night time.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:44 PM
syka16 syka16 is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

push. You get paid off by TPGK enough to make this +EV with trips 77-
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

Call. There are so many people with the first hand crazies he could have anything. Yes, he could be overbetting because he is crazy or thinks you are, but call anyway.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

I hit the call button and then call support and manually call by voice msg. you be surprised how often he just thinks he outkicks your K and does this...
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:57 PM
hummusx hummusx is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

Call. Most of the time it's just someone trying to steal it. You can't be afraid of the other 4.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:58 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

just wanted to add that even if he has the 4 and outkicks you, you have a decent shot of chopping or hitting a 5 too...not that you should call knowing this, but its a factor that weighs in making this call.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:58 PM
hummusx hummusx is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

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I hit the call button and then call support and manually call by voice msg. you be surprised how often he just thinks he outkicks your K and does this...

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Or better yet, I'm really, really hoping that he was slowplaying AA. Then he'll swear at you and whine and complain about how bad a beat he took.
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:06 PM
KenProspero KenProspero is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

What may Villian have?

Given the way people actually play:

4, better kicker (you're a big dog)
K, darn near anything -- you're a big favorite
Overpair -- you're a big favorite
Two clubs -- you're the favorite
A, darn near anything -- come on, we've all seen it -- you're the huge favorite
Stone cold bluff representing the set -- you're the huge favorite.

My guess would be K, good kicker, but who knows.

My question for you, is what was your game plan when you checked the trips on the flop. I assume you slow played because you wanted action, and were afraid that if you bet everyone would fold. So, your problem is that you now got more action than you anticipated.

Though villian may show up with the case 4 and beat you, that's the risk you have to take.
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:17 PM
hummusx hummusx is offline
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Default Re: weak trips on 1st hand of 22... right to fold?

Yeah I should have mentioned, I'm not checking this flop. You definitely don't want to give a free card to the person with two clubs. Put in a bet, if everyone folds you get to take it down. Chances are if you make a 2/3 pot bet you are going to get at least one caller with Ax or more likely Kx or something completely stupid. In this case you got lucky and were able to go for a check raise, but plenty of times a flop like this will get checked around and someone gets a free chance to make the flush. I guarantee you'll be more mad in that case than if everyone folds to your reasonable flop bet. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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