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Old 04-25-2005, 09:18 AM
Finwe Finwe is offline
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Default Seriously dude, get off my fish

So I'm 4 tabling the $3/6 and $2/4 last night on Party and had the joy of sitting with some major fish with much higher than average buy-ins on 3 different occasions. Each time, some guy starts berating my fish! They taunted and cursed his poker abilities and I felt the need to get involved.

I tried reasoning with some of them i.e. "If he's bad, why on earth would you want him to leave" and defending the victim "He is waay better than you!" Sadly, each time, the fish left and the games went sour.

Now, I believe most denizens of these boards wouldn't engage in such activity but I've definitely noticed alot more of it recently. So, what can we do? I think that getting involved (intelligently and in a friendly way) can stop these fish attacks in their tracks in many circumstances. What lines do you guys use in cases like these? Should I start a National Save Our Fish Foundation? All thoughts welcome.

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Old 04-25-2005, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

Spam the chatbox with "Should I call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAHMBULANCE for you?" so that way the fish can't read the insults.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

best way is to personally insult the berator -- get him to turn on you instead of the fish -- i usually just use some variation of "hey XYZ, STFU, no one asked your monkey ass -- ppl come here to gamble and have fun, not take lessons from a jackass novice like yourself who should have been aborted by his crack-addicted mother"

Gets the fish on your side and less willing to up and leave, thinking he has friends fighting for him.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

i yelled at a player for the first time today, because i just hit a 150BB downswing, which of course is no excuse.

anyway, i have pocket 77s and the flop comes QQ7. i bet, he raises, i reraise he caps. turn comes an 8. i bet, he raises, i reraise he caps. river comes a king, i bet he raises i reraise he caps and shows KQ.

he then says "bluffing your way out of it wont do any good"

then i said "i had pocket 7s you dumbass."


i guess thats not the worst thing i could have said.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

Is this even a bad beat? Is that player a fish? Sure, he may not have needed to cap each street, but come on, there is no anyone on these boards that is folding trip queens on that hand. So you were never going to win this one. Sucks that he caught his card, but there is no way he deserves to be yelled at.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:11 AM
Keith Fellmy Keith Fellmy is offline
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

Even I have fallen victim to this very thing. Just seems like the fish keep hitting their impossible miracle cards. I was down only 50 bucks and did the re-buy deal. So I was back up to 85 dollars (so total I guess I was down 15 bucks). There was a maniac at the table, he kept betting big every hand, pre flop. When someone called him down he would show a crap starting hand that turned into gold on the turn or the river.

One hand I was involved in. I am in the BB with AA (sweet), ALL the players at the table limp in. I raise to 10 dollars (this is a NL50 table at Party). Maniac calls and one othr calls. Flop is A25 rainbow. I bet 10 he raises all in. WTF? What the hell does he have? I call (he had more than I did.) Other caller folds. Turn and River are rags and he turns over 34 suited. He called a ten dollar raise with that. I am sure I had the look of the TV pros after they have been "Gus'd." The guy called a ten dollar raise with 34 suited. Jesus. So I told him about it. He told me to look at his chip stack. So all I could do is write his name down and see when he is playing again.

The guy started at the table a few hands after I did. He bought in with 20 bucks. Last time I checked he had almost 400.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:30 AM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

well he certainly overplayed his hand, but thats not the point. i was simply responding to him, since he was the first to trash talk. i shouldnt have said anything though. if it wasnt for the downswing i wouldnt have even cared. in truth, it would be +ev if the guy actually thought i capped 3 streets on a stone cold bluff.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

The best thing to do is to just start asking dumb questions or making jokes. That usually shuts them up. Just change the topic.

Last time this happened I just typed in "Who here is drunk?" Then everybody starting joking around about being drunk and the guy stopped the berating.

You are never going to reason with these guys, you can only stop them temporarily.

The other thing to do is send an email to the poker site saying that the player is abusing others and asking for his chat to be turned off.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

report him, PLEASE.
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Old 04-25-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Seriously dude, get off my fish

Once at a 6-max table I had the exact same problem where this guy was raggin on this one horrible player. So I sent a table invitation to the berator with a message essentially saying. "Hey buddy, please stop insulting xxxx. Yes, he is a horrible, horrible player, but by insulting his play you will only cause him to either leave the table or to improve his play. Please do us both a favour and do not insult him."

After that he stopped insulting him, and even managed to write a "nh" a few times.
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