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Old 04-20-2005, 07:13 AM
EasilyFound EasilyFound is offline
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Default Hand That Crippled Me, Played Right or Wrong?

$11 SNG. Flame away:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed) converter

SB (t780)
BB (t1475)
Hero (t595)
MP (t3445)
CO (t505)
Button (t1200)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls t30, MP calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, MP calls t30.

Flop: (t225) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t535 (All-In)</font>, MP calls t535, CO calls t445 (All-In).

Turn: (t1740) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1740) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1740

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jd Th (one pair, tens).
MP has Kc Js (high card, king).
CO has Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: CO wins t1560. Hero wins t180. </font>
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:23 AM
Pepsquad Pepsquad is offline
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$11 SNG. Flame away:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed) converter

SB (t780)
BB (t1475)
Hero (t595)
MP (t3445)
CO (t505)
Button (t1200)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls t30, MP calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, MP calls t30.

Flop: (t225) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t535 (All-In)</font>, MP calls t535, CO calls t445 (All-In).

Turn: (t1740) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1740) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1740

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jd Th (one pair, tens).
MP has Kc Js (high card, king).
CO has Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: CO wins t1560. Hero wins t180. </font>

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Okay...you asked for it. What in the hell are you doing limping in UTG with J10o?!? This is an auto-muck pre-flop. The fact that you are already 6-handed in level 1 raises the liklihood (I wasn't there - so I don't know) that you've stumbled upon a rare thing on UB...a table full of monkeys. Sadly, you could have probably not played a single hand and monied in this tournament and you blew it. There's your flame. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

BTW, this isn't the hand that crippled you.
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: Hand That Crippled Me, Played Right or Wrong?

Fold pre-flop!
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Hand That Crippled Me, Played Right or Wrong?

What about post-flop?
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: Hand That Crippled Me, Played Right or Wrong?

Fold preflop.

Pushing into a field with TPBK doesn't sound right to me. You can be outkicked, or overpaired pretty easily here. MP can call with a lot here and draw out on you. The fact that this is 3-way makes your hand even weaker.

Check the flop and reevaluate where you stand given the action.

It's early and I'm not proofreading. But the answer is played wrong.

L8.
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:37 AM
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PS: Do not include the results as it can guide the analaysis towards the results. But my original post, although a little results-oriented, is still true. Pz.

[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="red">SS</font>
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: Hand That Crippled Me, Played Right or Wrong?

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What about post-flop?

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If I had your stack and had a temporary blood clot causing me to limp UTG and saw that flop, I'd push. I think the flop push was fine, even with two yet to act.

Pep.
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:59 AM
SippinSoma SippinSoma is offline
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Default Re: Hand That Crippled Me, Played Right or Wrong?

I think it's still a little early for that.

PS, You should really work on your PF so you avoid situations like these more often. Limping UTG is almost always incorrect.
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Old 04-20-2005, 08:57 AM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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There are 6 players left at level 2. LEVEL 2!!!

You might want to consider playing a bit more conservatively. If you find this difficult, just click "Autopost blinds and fold" and come back in 15 minutes. It would be better than playing like this.

When when people are playing like morons and knocking each other out, calling from the CO and open pushing on the flop are not really what you should be doing.
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Old 04-20-2005, 09:58 AM
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I think you should've folded pre-flop. That being said, you should've considered 3 things before acting pre-flop:

1. Position
2. Position
3. Position
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