twopair vs AA

[djr]

seat 4 is a fairly poor player. The prior hand he pushed a 876 low when I was showing 345 on the board. The question is...5th street. I pick up two pair when seat 7 pairs the door card. ONe of his aces is dead, and I don't think he has an ace in the hole. Seat 8 is showing zero strength so I don't think he even has a pair of kings. Is it right to raise?

On 6th, my sixes were dead and I couldn't remember if I had seen any fives out (although I was sure I had at least one live). I decided backing off and calling it down was the right move. I was prepared to dump my hand if seat 7 or 8 suddenly came alive.

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.5/$1), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.25 (hand converter)

3rd Street

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls

6th Street

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds

[Spladle Master]

Raising fifth street is atrocious. Folding is much better than raising.

[mscags]

Fold on fourth

[Spladle Master]

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Fold on fourth

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Folding isn't allowed when the pot is this big and you have a pair + three to a 6-high straight. He's getting almost 10:1 here.

[djr]

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Raising fifth street is atrocious. Folding is much better than raising.

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I'll accept that, I was sure raising was a bad move on my part. But, would calling be better than folding?

[Andy B]

I would at least consider bringing it in for a full bet. The call on fourth is correct, especially since it closes the action. Fifth is interesting. I don't think the raise is atrocious myself. If you can force out the other low hand (unlikely given what you've said), you've accomplished a lot. You should have the best high hand, but you're probably not enough of a favorite to raise purely for value. This could come down real ugly. I think I call and see what happens on sixth. I think you were right to check and call on sixth and seventh. If you had been out of position relative to the bettor, it would have been tougher.