Knocked Out Hand #2

EasilyFound · #1 04-18-2005, 06:39 PM

$11 SNG. Pretty straight forward. Blinds will increase after this hand. I figured my hand was worth that kind of raise in that position. You'll tell me if I'm wrong. Got one caller. Was out of position for the rest of the hand. Missed the flop. Was hoping my opponent missed also. I figure, if I check, I'm surrendring the pot. I figure there is a good chance I'm ahead. So I push.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

SB (t2215)
BB (t260)
UTG (t2445)
Hero (t740)
CO (t1550)
Button (t790)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t175, 1 fold, Button calls t175, 2 folds.

Flop: (t425) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t565 (All-In), Button calls t565.

Turn: (t1555) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1555) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1555

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ts Ah (high card, ace).
Button has 8d 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Button wins t1555.

DasLeben · #2 04-18-2005, 06:41 PM

Fold preflop. You might get away with limping, but I err on the side of folding this early.

EDIT: Nevermind...I thought by "Hand #2" you meant the blinds were still 10/15. At any rate, I don't like the push on the flop, like, at all.

Voltron87 · #3 04-18-2005, 06:43 PM

hey he's actually listening to me.

STILL MORE RESULTS ORIENTATED THINKING PLEASE!!!

Poisson7 · #4 04-18-2005, 06:44 PM

I probably fold this OOP pre-flop although might limp. However, assuming you made the plays you did and you're on the flop - I also like to fire at these ragged flops after a raise, but there's no reason to push. Make a half pot-size bet. If he plays back at you or calls you're done with the hand.

Shilly · #5 04-18-2005, 06:46 PM

I actually this is fine preflop, although you are committing a good amount of your stack. You will still have ~10BB if someone pushes and you have to fold, though.

You can't really do much with this flop. I think you're forced into checking here, as you can't really make any significant continuation bet with your stack size. Pushing and hoping he missed is a decent option, but lots of hands are going to call you here.

hfrog355 · #6 04-18-2005, 06:48 PM

Agreed...limp if you can, but if someone shows a hint of strength, you're beat.

There is no reason to push because there is almost no way you're ahead in the hand. Any pocket pair is going to call and you're also likely up against someone with an A and a higher kicker.

EasilyFound · #7 04-18-2005, 07:22 PM

Is limping really a good option here? I thought raise or fold. As for making a half-pot sized bet after the flop, that doesn't seem right. I have only t525 and I'm supposed to be about t200 at a pot of t425? Doesn't that look weak?

Komodo · #8 04-18-2005, 07:29 PM

I think your preflop raise is too big, 3,5BB. Folding is ok, limping is also ok and even a small raise migth be acceptable.
I would also fire on the flop, but 150 or so.

wuwei · #9 04-18-2005, 07:35 PM

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Is limping really a good option here? I thought raise or fold. As for making a half-pot sized bet after the flop, that doesn't seem right. I have only t525 and I'm supposed to be about t200 at a pot of t425? Doesn't that look weak?

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Actually, pushing looks weaker. It says "I don't want you to call. If I did, I probably would have bet less."

Matt Walker · #10 04-18-2005, 07:38 PM

I agree with the raise or fold mindset. I don't like the idea of limping here because it takes away suck a good percentage of your chips. I'd most likely fold since it's a 10+1 and those players seem to be loose with their calling standard, but I don't think a raise with AT is that bad 6 handed.

On the flop I most likely push and pray. If you check it I'd expect you'll be seeing a bet and giving up the pot. This would leave you with 550 chips left getting ready to post 150. This low flop isn't going to help hardly any hands other than a pocket pair. It's unfortunate he had 88, but it happens.