An SSH Move Fails Hard

[gaming_mouse]

See pg. 96. While the play failed here, it is the only street I'm comfortable with.

Do I lead the turn? C/fold it? Fold the river?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

[tytygoodnuts]

I say fold the flop. Definite raise/fold situation and I don't think you have the odds to keep playing here UNLESS this guy is a maniac.

[MoreWineII]

I just check/fold this. Even if you have the best hand on the flop, you're going to be dodging so many cards on the turn and river.

[Jeff W]

I don't know why you're comfortable with the flop check-raise. You're not best and you're not going to eliminate draws. Meanwhile, your draw is weak. What is the point of the check-raise?

Edit: Btw, check-fold.

[gaming_mouse]

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I just check/fold this. Even if you have the best hand on the flop, you're going to be dodging so many cards on the turn and river.

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Thank you. I knew I was missing something obvious.

[admiralfluff]

I dont have my copy of SSHE handy, but I think this flop is far too draw heavy to try this c/r here. When I do use this move, which I do frequently, if this many people come along, I check/fold the turn UI.

[Schizo]

Where in SSH does it have this move?

What are you trying to do with the OOP check raise here?

[That guy]

I don't get it... no overcard/kicker to your middle pair, fighting a 2-flush, vs a crowd... check-fold.

[chesspain]

I don't know if I'ld say the flop checkraise was horrible, but once it's called and the turn is four-handed (was someone all-in?), I'm folding after MP1 bets into the flop raiser.

[Michael Davis]

If this were somehow a raised pot preflop that might be enough to get involved in the mix, but as it is you have second pair no kick on a juiced flop and should generally just dump to even a late position bet.

-Michael