For those losing faith in the value bet...

mannika · #1 04-15-2005, 06:05 PM

Here's some medicine. Same guy both hands.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls.

River: (12.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.66 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 6d 6c (full house, sixes full of twos).
MP1 has Kh Js (two pair, kings and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 20.66 BB. 

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jc Kc (three of a kind, kings).
CO has Tc Jh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.50 BB. 

Edit: Original title made no sense

PassiveCaller · #2 04-15-2005, 06:12 PM

These look more like bragging about the maniacal player you found [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't they'll comfort anyone in situations in which they perceive the player as at least more reasonable.

mannika · #3 04-15-2005, 06:14 PM

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These look more like bragging about the maniacal player you found [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yes, that was pretty well the point of the post. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

mantasm · #4 04-15-2005, 06:17 PM

That sure is a razor thin river value bet in the first hand.

Luv2DriveTT · #5 04-15-2005, 06:28 PM

3 bet the river in hand # 2.

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mr pink · #6 04-15-2005, 06:31 PM

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3 bet the river in hand # 2.

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mannika · #7 04-15-2005, 06:33 PM

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3 bet the river in hand # 2.

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Agreed. I didn't realize it was the same guy from the first hand until after I gathered the hand history, otherwise I probably would have.

jason_t · #8 04-15-2005, 06:37 PM

Bet the flop in hand one, and the 3-bet the river in hand two.

mannika · #9 04-15-2005, 06:40 PM

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Bet the flop in hand one

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Why? Preflop raiser is directly behind me, and the only draw that I'm worried about is the spade draw, which I'm not going to get rid of by forcing to call a double bet anyways. I checked with the intention of trapping the field for another bet when the preflop raiser raised (or when he was supposed to)

jason_t · #10 04-15-2005, 06:45 PM

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Bet the flop in hand one

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Why? Preflop raiser is directly behind me, and the only draw that I'm worried about is the spade draw, which I'm not going to get rid of by forcing to call a double bet anyways. I checked with the intention of trapping the field for another bet when the preflop raiser raised (or when he was supposed to)

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There are more draws on that board than the spade draw.