Protect?

QTip · #1 04-15-2005, 08:19 AM

I'm pretty sure I screwed this up bad just want to confirm ...

I'm UTG+1 in a loose table with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG calls, I raise, folded to CO calls, button calls, sb calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

sb checks, bb checks, UTG bets, Hero calls...

I love my hand right now, and I'm thinking I win this pot much more than 50% of the time. I called with the idea of not losing customers...

I think this probably sucked pretty bad. I think I should have raised. The reasons I changed my mind after I pressed call:

1. An ace probably isn't folding anyway
2. The straight draw probably isn't folding anyway
3. The raise is for value
4. The pot is already large
5. If a heart doesn't fall, AT might not hold up by itself

Did I miss anything? Now...can someone tell me why I'm such a donk when I'm sitting in front of the monitor?!

synthtrance · #2 04-15-2005, 08:24 AM

I don't see a problem with calling here, but you want to raise on the turn.

edit: on second thought, I think a raise on the flop is fine [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

mannika · #3 04-15-2005, 08:25 AM

I think you got all of them. I would add in that any lower flush draws are not going to be fazed by your double bet on the flop, as the pot is large enough for them to draw to.

Also, is the ATs raise w/ 1 limper a standard play for you? Or was it based on a read of a weak/loose UTG?

Edit: I like the raise on the flop, if just for value. As long as you get at least one caller behind you, you're getting betting odds to the flush, and even if it gets folded back to UTG, you will either have the best hand, or will get a free card at some point.

Piiop · #4 04-15-2005, 08:27 AM

Raise now. Value, plus you don't want to lose customers on the turn if you hit a heart and raise. Weak str8 draws may fold.

Piiop · #5 04-15-2005, 08:28 AM

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Also, is the ATs raise w/ 1 limper a standard play for you?

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Standard.

cnfuzzd · #6 04-15-2005, 08:32 AM

time to reread SSHE.

heres a start from the kong days

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This means that flush draws are very easy to play... and play against. If you are playing a flush draw, you usually should play aggressively for the first bet or two on the flop, for various reasons.

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peace

john nickle

QTip · #7 04-15-2005, 08:32 AM

I didn't lay out each player because of the stage of the hand, so I just said "Loose Game". UTG was 75/2/.77 - no kidding. Even so, the raise with this hand is standard for me.

QTip · #8 04-15-2005, 08:33 AM

Yeah...funny thing is, I'm in the middle of rereading it right now! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

mannika · #9 04-15-2005, 08:36 AM

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I didn't lay out each player because of the stage of the hand, so I just said "Loose Game". UTG was 75/2/.77 - no kidding. Even so, the raise with this hand is standard for me.

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Oh wow, super-standard then.

chief444 · #10 04-15-2005, 08:49 AM

Yeah, definitely raise. Reraise...cap...whatever you can get in there. If they call it's probably good for you anyway. If a weaker ace cold-calls two wonderful. If a gutshot straight cold-calls two wonderful. You're edge is just too much in this spot to worry about protecting. Worry more about V-A-L-U-E. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]