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Old 04-14-2005, 09:15 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Innocent ATo Hand Early

$22 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

CO (t645)
Button (t770)
SB (t770)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t840)
UTG+1 (t955)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t830)
MP3 (t790)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t15, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t20</font>, Button folds, SB folds, Hero ?
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

I would fold, your draw is very weak and the jack of hearts sometimes (although rarely) won't be an out.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

What do you put UTG+1 on when he bets 1/3 pot on a draw happy board into three opponents?
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early


I really have no idea, this just isn't the time to mess around, as you have basically no hand.
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

I'd call this and check/fold the turn if you don't improve.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

There is no reason to call this. Don't screw around out of position with weak draws in tiny pots.

-Phoenix
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

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What do you put UTG+1 on when he bets 1/3 pot on a draw happy board into three opponents?

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You need to be refered to lorinda 3:16

"Do I need this pot?"
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:17 PM
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There is no reason to call this. Don't screw around out of position with weak draws in tiny pots.

-Phoenix

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This is a raise to 80 or a fold. Calling is not an option.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

I would just get rid of it and move onto the next hand. I wouldn't waste raising to 80 (10% of your stack) on a very weak draw that may not even draw to the best hand. Since he limped, he might have a hand like J10 or QJ or a couple of garbage hearts.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Innocent ATo Hand Early

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I would just get rid of it and move onto the next hand. I wouldn't waste raising to 80 (10% of your stack) on a very weak draw that may not even draw to the best hand. Since he limped, he might have a hand like J10 or QJ or a couple of garbage hearts.

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Honestly, I didn't even notice I had a draw. I noticed a weak bet on a draw heavy board multiway.
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