99 vs LAG and a donker

PokerBob · #1 04-14-2005, 08:42 PM

pf raise here is 42/14 through 30, so I thoought I'd get his ass HU. The other donker is 44/8/.4 through 50. What do ya do with this turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero ???????

einbert · #2 04-14-2005, 08:51 PM

Totally agreed on the PF 3-bet.

So UTG+2 is very passive and doing this? With two other players in if you're up against QJ (very possible IMO) you're breakeven on a cap, and you're definitely not folding the river for one bet. He could also have a lot of two pair hands, even though he's passive through 50 hands it doesn't mean he won't go crazy with KT here. I cap it and call the river UI, if I fill up I'm going as many bets as possible on the river.

chesspain · #3 04-14-2005, 08:55 PM

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So UTG+2 is very passive and doing this? With two other players in if you're up against QJ (very possible IMO)

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That would be my guess

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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

einbert · #4 04-14-2005, 08:58 PM

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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

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Not if his hand range is only QJ. But I think he also has an overplayed two pair here a decent amount of the time, which you are WAY ahead of.

PokerBob · #5 04-14-2005, 08:59 PM

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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

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Me neither.

einbert · #6 04-14-2005, 09:00 PM

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you're breakeven on a cap,

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I don't think so.

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Me neither.

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Your stats are only over 50 hands. If you think that's enough to put him squarely on QJ with no other possibilities, then of course you're right. But I don't think that's the case.

cnfuzzd · #7 04-14-2005, 09:03 PM

if the EP limper is that loose, do you really think he is folding to your iso raise?

call the turn.

peace

john nickle

PokerBob · #8 04-14-2005, 09:10 PM

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if the EP limper is that loose, do you really think he is folding to your iso raise?

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Not sure, but I wanted him to PAY if he wanted to come along.

PokerBob · #9 04-14-2005, 09:43 PM

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pf raise here is 42/14 through 30, so I thoought I'd get his ass HU. The other donker is 44/8/.4 through 50. What do ya do with this turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero ???????

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I capped it. Both dumdums called.

River: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
check, check, hero???????

mute · #10 04-15-2005, 07:26 PM

I would give the turn 3bet from a passive player a lot of respect, so I'm checking this through. Likely he just got scared of the flush. Also the LAG could have hit the flush, and is looking to check-raise.