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Old 04-14-2005, 07:24 PM
Jackrabbit Slim Jackrabbit Slim is offline
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Default 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

My first thought when I saw my nines was that I'm gonna push these against the probable limpers since the table had been sort of passive. Now the first guy raises but I'm still thinking pushing is a good idea until the SB also calls. Now, with one raise and one call there is a pretty good chance I'm beat or up against at least one coinflip since I most likely can't get both of them to fold with a push. Is a fold here terribly weak/tight?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (5 handed) converter

UTG (t1860)
MP (t1655)
Button (t1730)
SB (t2010)
Hero (t745)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t200</font>, SB calls t175,
Hero?
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

How many hands until level 4? this would make a difference to me given your chip size - if you have enough hands left until level four, i fold here
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:43 PM
Jackrabbit Slim Jackrabbit Slim is offline
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

Hmm, not sure actually, but I managed to bust before level 5 so I guess it was several hands to go.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

i dunno - for some reason i see this hand as one of those hands where you don't have much FE at all and it's gonna be one of those things where the other two guys check it to the river and then one of them pairs up
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:53 PM
Chizoad Chizoad is offline
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

Isn't call one of the buttons you can click?

150 more will drop you to 600, and if the flop is good, you can push and get your fold equity there. I agree you probably don't have a lot of fold equity preflop.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:54 PM
Jackrabbit Slim Jackrabbit Slim is offline
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

My thoughts exactly and if both call I'm most likely up against 3-4 overcards and that is pretty poor odds.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

I think its a fold but not a slam dunk. There is a good chance that you are being raised by two overs (at worst) and the call was by a made hand, likely TT or better, or AK or AQ.
I don't think you can hope for better than a coinflip although you might want to gamble and try and double up.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

If SB folds here a push is still ok though?
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

"there is a pretty good chance I'm beat or up against at least one coinflip sinc"

Actually, if you are up against 4 overs then chances are one of them is dominated, which creates very good odds for you.

You said the table was passive, and blinds are still small so you can survive for a bit. I think it's marginal so I'd probally reluctantly fold and wait for a clearer spot. Don't think of this as advice though.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: 99 in BB with 2 raises against me

Yeah, for me at least, its the two callers that create the problem with the push back. There's 450 chips in there, you're adding 725 totalling out to 1275 and leacing them with a little worse than 2:1 on the call.

So with one mini-raiser I push back or two callers I push back.
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