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Old 04-14-2005, 04:59 PM
Deuce2High Deuce2High is offline
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Default Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?

***** Hand History for Game 1894494450 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:11297494 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, April 14, 16:47:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 14253 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: LernHow2Play ( $1940 )
Seat 2: honkylips23 ( $1480 )
Seat 3: drdst122 ( $1780 )
Seat 7: running4life ( $1300 )
Seat 8: RookieDawg ( $960 )
Seat 10: Pwnasaurus ( $540 )
Trny:11297494 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Pwnasaurus [ 3d 2c ]
honkylips23 folds.
drdst122 folds.
running4life folds.
RookieDawg folds.
Pwnasaurus is all-In [440]

This guy was average tight player. Wasn't involved in too many pots and I thought he would fold here about 65% of the time.
Just wondering if this is retarded or not.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Default Re: Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?

I think you are vasty overestimating your fold equity on this hand, villian would be getting almost 3:1 to call and would be foolish to fold any hand, let alone 65% of them.

I would fold 23o but push most everything else.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?

It sucks, but I think its your best play too. Sometimes its ok to wait one more, but in this case the next BB will be a fairly large stack too. Villan will call a lot more then you think, and with every reason to. BUT you will win more often then you think.

Bottom line is.... You are hurtin ... Time to make something happen.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:14 PM
J-Lo J-Lo is offline
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Default Re: Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?

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I think you are vasty overestimating your fold equity on this hand, villian would be getting almost 3:1 to call and would be foolish to fold any hand, let alone 65% of them.

I would fold 23o but push most everything else.

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340:740 is 1:2.1

hero is pushing 540 total or 440 less his 100 SB

BB hasta call 340, into a (540+200)=740 pot
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:20 PM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?

well, this play does have its merits, but not many of them. it is a 22, so you might be able to get him to fold if hes terrible, but i would call you in a heartbeat with almost any 2, and would not be folding anywhere near 65% of the time. my advice is to try to stick it in on the next rount with a hand that can win a showdown, or just get it in on yer blind. bah, it sucks to be short stacked. (btw, our nets back up at the apartment). holla
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:24 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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(btw, our nets back up at the apartment). holla

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But do you have more tasty brownies and/or blueberry muffins?!

Yugoslav
MMMmmmmmmm muffins...
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:30 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?

Keep in mind this is a 20+2.

People fold for weird reasons here for the same reason they call in situations where they shouldnt. stoopidety. At a higher limit I wait for a better spot, but I still hate it. This is a damned if ya do/dont place. A 22 at the 22s like raptor mentioned.
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: Was this my best chance to regain fold equity?


One important note...if you do plan to play this hand, you shuold strongly consider calling preflop and pushing on any flop. This is almost impossible to defend against if the BB is holding something like 85o and misses the flop, especially if they are a tight player.

If you think your opponent is the type that will fold here preflop with like 20-25% of hands (and trust me some people will, especially at the $22-$33 level), then pushing should be better than folding.
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