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Two AT hands
New to table, and the only notes I had were on people who folded
1. I think this was too loose a raise preflop. I need to stop doing this. I should have only raised if it were sooted 2. Should not have called the flop bet. My reasoning at the time was that I had two backdoor draws and three overcard outs. I know this is bad bad bad bad bad now looking at it. However, once I did make the call I think I played the rest fine. Please berate me so I stop doing stupid things like this. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds. River: (8 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls. Final Pot: 12 BB Hand 2 Think I learned my lesson...finally. Is this the way to play this hand, or should I have folded preflop...? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>. Flop: (5.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls. Turn: (3.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 4.66 BB |
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Re: Two AT hands
Hand 1-
The PF raise is a little much, I think calling the flop c/r is fine with ur two bd draws and overcard. The rest of the hand is standard. Hand 2: PF Raise is standard for me. The rest of the hand seems fine. Do you have any reads for these hands? |
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Re: Two AT hands
I tend to just call with ATs, and ATo early position.
I guess this is too passive |
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Re: Two AT hands
First hand: The PFR is marginal. I think it's close but in general I would tend to muck here.
I don't think you can really check this flop, and I don't think you can fold to the CR either. I like your play. Turn and river standard. Hand 2: I think PFR is standard. Flop bet is pretty mandatory. I like the turn check/fold with no reads. |
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Re: Two AT hands
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I tend to just call with ATs, and ATo early position. I guess this is too passive [/ QUOTE ] You should raise ATs and fold ATo from EP. |
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Re: Two AT hands
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New to table, and the only notes I had were on people who folded 1. I think this was too loose a raise preflop. I need to stop doing this. I should have only raised if it were sooted 2. Should not have called the flop bet. My reasoning at the time was that I had two backdoor draws and three overcard outs. I know this is bad bad bad bad bad now looking at it. However, once I did make the call I think I played the rest fine. Please berate me so I stop doing stupid things like this. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds. River: (8 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls. Final Pot: 12 BB Hand 2 Think I learned my lesson...finally. Is this the way to play this hand, or should I have folded preflop...? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>. Flop: (5.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls. Turn: (3.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 4.66 BB [/ QUOTE ] ATo is an ugly hand to raise with in EP, unless that abel is absurdly tight and you think you can steal the blinds. Fold the flop in #1, but you know that. ATs is stronger, but I wouldn't make a habit of raising this UTG. The play isn't BAD, but IMO it shouldn't be standard either. |
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Re: Two AT hands
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Fold the flop in #1, but you know that. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Hero is getting 11-1 on his call. His BDFD is definitely worth a full 1.5 outs. I'd say his A outs are worth about 1.5 and he has two BDSD worth another 1.5 outs collectively. With 4.5 outs I don't see why this is an 'easy' fold, if a fold at all. |
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Re: Two AT hands
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[ QUOTE ] Fold the flop in #1, but you know that. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Hero is getting 11-1 on his call. His BDFD is definitely worth a full 1.5 outs. I'd say his A outs are worth about 1.5 and he has two BDSD worth another 1.5 outs collectively. With 4.5 outs I don't see why this is an 'easy' fold, if a fold at all. [/ QUOTE ] You are right. I am wrong. That is why I am a donk. That said, I think 4.5 is a bit generous here. |
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Re: Two AT hands
raising UTG with ATs is standard? I've recently been having my doubts about raising UTG with AQs.
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Re: Two AT hands
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raising UTG with ATs is standard? I've recently been having my doubts about raising UTG with AQs. [/ QUOTE ] For me, raising KJs, ATs, KQo, AJo, and 99 UTG in a 10-handed game is standard. |
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