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Old 04-14-2005, 12:22 PM
Etric Etric is offline
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Default KTs from the SB

UTG+1 is TP-A.
Button is LP-P.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Was there a point that I should have laid this down before I did?
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

Standard.

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Old 04-14-2005, 12:32 PM
nolanfan34 nolanfan34 is offline
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

I hate hands like this, where the turn gives you that glimmer of hope.

I would consider ditching it on the flop. If the flop was rainbow then I'd feel more comfortable with my overcards, but two of your outs are slightly dirty with two hearts on the board. With the backdoor flush draw, let's say 6-ish outs total, I guess it's probably still a call.

Probably not much you could have done differently.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

I don't think it would be a mistake to fold the flop.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

[ QUOTE ]
UTG+1 is TP-A.
Button is LP-P.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Was there a point that I should have laid this down before I did?

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Fold the flop.

Mike
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:47 PM
TheHammer24 TheHammer24 is offline
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

I dunno...I feel you got to fold the flop. Small pot, not much hope, and KT is infamous for getting trapped when it does hit an over card. Your call on the turn was proper as was your complete in the SB. But I think you have to fold the flop.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

Yes, infamous it is.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:51 PM
CallMeIshmael CallMeIshmael is offline
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

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Was there a point that I should have laid this down before I did?

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The flop.

If we give you 4 outs for your overcards (and that is generous) and 1.5 for the BD flush, you need 7.5:1. You arent getting that. You arent closing the action. There is a 2 flush and 3 straight on the board (meaning you have to further discount overcard outs).
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: KTs from the SB

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You arent closing the action.

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I forgot to mention, that's another factor which makes me lean toward a flop fold. BB check-raising there would suck big time.
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