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Old 04-14-2005, 05:39 AM
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Default Crying call with top pair K kicker

Hi all

Hand from just now - Party 3/6

READS: CO looks solid. Only 10 hands in but he has done nothing odd.

Hero open raises MP3 KTs

CO reraises

Everyone folds, Hero calls the raise.

2 to the flop for 7.5 SB

flop is 28Tr

Hero bets, CO raises, hero calls.

2 to the turn (11.5SB)

Turn 7

Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River (7BB)

River is a 4

Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final pot 9BB

Thoughts?
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

Any reads on CO? What are his preflop 3-betting standards in that position? Is he the kind of player that would play AK, this way postflop?
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

Just seen 10 hands and he looked okay. Had not noticed anything maniacal, anyways.
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

This is difficult without reads. He surely plays his hand like AA, KK, QQ, JJ. I would be tempted to just bail out on the flop and not investing 2 more BBs to find out. If you were inclined to call this down when you saw the flop I think a better line is to check/call all the way.
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

simple hand, hope you won
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

Well he turned over KK and I started to think that I should have folded to the river bet. I mean, would he bet AK or AQ?
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

Well it makes it a little more difficult without reads. I think his preflop 3-bet and flop raise tell u that he likes his hand. Im thinking AA-JJ at least. I dont think AK pops u on a flop like this, depends on the player.

Against a solid I just call his flop raise and check/fold the turn...if u are behind, u are going to need a lot of help.

Against a LAG, I 3-bet the flop and go from there.

You're probably behind. I say check/fold the turn...if u are against AA-KK you're pretty much dead. QQ u have 3 outs, JJ 3 outs. Once u find out his calling standards u can give your self a better estimate of where u stand.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

Without a read it's difficult to access the 3-bet it could be a premium hand but it could be a smaller pair as he might put you on a steal/loose raise and want the added fold equity he gets by 3-betting.

I think if you going to call this down i would check call all the way as he will likely raise the flop with just overcards (maybe then taking a free turn card).

You may well be behind but it's an opportunity with a decent hand to call down and find out some info on your opponent i think that's ok here.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

With only 10 hands and no serious reads on this player, I like check-calling him down the entire way.

Mike Emery
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: Crying call with top pair K kicker

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Any reads on CO? What are his preflop 3-betting standards in that position? Is he the kind of player that would play AK, this way postflop?

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READS: CO...Only 10 hands in but he has done nothing odd.
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