Cold-calling makes me feel dirty

brettbrettr · #1 04-13-2005, 10:48 PM

This table has been pretty loose. I have 40 hands on MP1, he's played half of them. Weakly. If he doens't call I don't call, even though I expect the button to come along.

UTG is a rock however, 75 hands, 12/3. There was another player behind me I fully expected to call. I expected a call from the button too, but all things considered, not sure I needed it...

I call a river raise.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls.

River: (9.16 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

adamstewart · #2 04-13-2005, 10:51 PM

Why did you raise the flop?

brettbrettr · #3 04-13-2005, 10:51 PM

Looking at this now, is the flop raise any good at all? I mean, with his #'s he's going to have AA, KK, AK QQ a large percentage of the time. The liklihood of my buying a freebie seems low.

brettbrettr · #4 04-13-2005, 10:52 PM

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Why did you raise the flop?

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Heh, I wrote my "why did I raise the flop" while you were writing yours. Yeah, its not the right play. It was a default free card play reflex that didn't examine all the variables.

einbert · #5 04-13-2005, 10:53 PM

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UTG is a rock

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I call a river raise.

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Huh? If your read is that UTG is weak-tight I think bet/folding the river is the best idea.
Then again, you only have 75 hands. So I agree that calling the raise is prudent, because of the small sample size.

Since MP1 is bad and you 'expect the button to come along', I would strongly consider threebetting. Position in pots like this can be quite powerful.

I only raise this flop if you have a stronger read on UTG. If he's very passive it's probably fine, otherwise I just call.

NH otherwise.

adamstewart · #6 04-13-2005, 10:57 PM

I have to admit, I'm really confused by UTG here.

Given his stats, his most likely holdings are AA, KK, or AK. Therefore, I'd almost be inclined to check the river through.

However, he hasn't raised you at all!?!? Hmmm... could be he be calling down with QQ?

Confusing... given, though, your sample size is small on him.

Adam

brettbrettr · #7 04-13-2005, 10:58 PM

Yeah, maybe I change that. If UTG c/r's me on the river I just can't be good.